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Shimano/Campy compabilitybjarne
May 28, 2003 3:41 AM
I have Record 9-speed from 1999, but my rear derailluer is worn, and I need a new one.
That seemes to be a problem, so I would like to know, if I can use a D/A derailluer, with my Record ergolevers?
NO...C-40
May 28, 2003 4:56 AM
The cable pull is not the same. If you want to save some money get a Chorus, Centaur or Veloce derailleur.
more....C-40
May 28, 2003 7:00 AM
http://www.campagnolo.com/qea_search.php?gid=10&cid=3&key=comp

When in doubt, consult campy. The website above has the official views on the subject.

The older 9 speed ergop levers really need to have the rachet changed to work with the newer derailleurs.

If I was going to all that effort, I'd switch to 10 speed and be done with it.
You might have a problemMR_GRUMPY
May 28, 2003 5:05 AM
Campy changed their rear derailluer geometry in 2000. Neither Dura Ace nor a new Campy derailluer will work correctly. You have to find an old derailluer or change internal parts in your shifter in order to use a new derailluer.
2001 RD will work with 1999 shifterstanman
May 28, 2003 6:07 AM
No experience with Dura Ace RD with Ergo shifters, but.... despite all the Campy marketing BS from Vincenza, the 2001 or newer rear derailleur will work perfectly fine with 1999 9 speed shifters. You can use *any* current Campy RD, from Record down to Mirage with 9 speed campy. In fact, I use 7 and 8 speed downtube shifters (prehistoric, it seems these days) with a brand new Veloce RD. If you want to get a second opinion, go to google.groups and do a search on rec.bicycles.tech.

See below for quote from the usenet:

"bob-<< I have a set of 1999 9 speed Chorus Ergo shifters coupled with a 2000
Daytona short cage derailer.
I would like to go to a long cage derailer, specifically the "Racing
T". >>

<< In looking at the Branford Bike site it says that for 2001 Campy
changed the design of the rear derailers and shifters, and that you
cannot match new stuff with old.

This would mean I couldn't use a 2001 rear derailer with my 1999
Ergo's

Is this true? >>

Not true, we mix years of ERGO and rders all the time. Some places just read
what a manufacturer prints, like changing 9s pulleys for 8s(not necessary),
instead of actually trying this stuff.
We use modern Campag rders(2000/2001) for rder replacements regardless of year
of shifters, works great.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl ST.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com"

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Peter+Chisholm+campy+9+speed+rder+2000+group:rec.bicycles.tech

BTW, I have no affiliation with Vecchio's or Peter, except that he answers questions honestly and accurately. Hope this helps cut through the muck.
Now I feel silly.....MR_GRUMPY
May 28, 2003 7:10 AM
for running out and getting the last 99 Chorus rear derailler. Oh well, it's always good to have a spare.
It didn't work for me...eddie m
May 28, 2003 11:26 AM
when I wrecked my 1995(?)8s rear derailler, I tried a 2002 9s replacement. It would not shift properly, and I could not adjust it for the full range of gears. The Sachs 8s chain would not run on the 9s pulleys. I ended up upgrading to 9s with a new chain, shifter cam and a spacer kit from Branford.
Worn out derailleur?Kerry
May 28, 2003 4:42 PM
Just curious, but how did you determine that your derailleur was worn out? What part(s) wore out? My '98 Record unit has about 45K miles on it and shows no loose pivots, no loss of shifting precision, no loss of spring tension, no noticeable wear on the pullies, etc. To what do you attribute the wearing out of your derailleur?