|Crappy Campy Record parts and service||wielerpret|
May 20, 2003 3:05 AM
|Now, I always happened to think that the Campagnolo gruppo is the best one on the market. I liked to visit campyonly.com etc. and all was nice and well with my own Record 2001 gruppo. Until...
After only 9000 kms bearings of the expensive carbon top notch Bottom Bracket were worn. This after a new chain was installed after 8000 kms and everything was checked. Forget about the boast of all parts always being replacable blah di blah, etc. There were no bearings of that size available; there never had been any warranty on these parts, and so on. Just WHO the HELL do these guys think they are?!!
I should consider a new Chorus BB...?? How do I know that I can get replacement parts for that if anything should happen?
Ditto with the flimsy carbon seatpost and the not so powerful powerlink of the chain (5000 kms). DON'T believe the Italian salespitch, people! I don't trust any of it anymore and advise you to go with Shimano, Truvativ, Ritchey, FSA or any other competitor. Perhaps that will teach these arrogant a##holes something. Anyone with similar problems? Come out of the closet!
Good hunting. Luke. Amsterdam. www.iwaarden.com. (click: 'mijn fietsen'=my bikes)
|Bottom bracket is a unit!||the bull|
May 20, 2003 3:33 AM
|You would not want to replace just the bearings.
The race and spindle could have wear.Do it right and relace the bottom bracket.Call Willam at 1-800-362-9588.He owns WCB and will send you a new bottom bracket for $45 directly from oshners! Price includes the shipping!
Thats not so bad now is it?
|For us poor devils overseas...||wielerpret|
May 20, 2003 4:10 AM
|...things are a bit different. I found the price (at bike2build.nl which is an av. 15% cheaper than a LBS) to be Eur.112,= and with the Euro/$ rate as it is, I estimate it at approx. $117,= . I'm getting more and more worked up about this...
Thanks for your prompt reaction, bull. BTW, I liked the peek on your record shelf the other day.
|Totalcycling.com? nm||the bull|
May 20, 2003 8:27 AM
|Guess what Bull?||cyclequip|
May 20, 2003 5:07 AM
|My DA BB is rebuildable.|
|Campy BB can also be rebuilt...||C-40|
May 20, 2003 5:15 AM
|You guys don't seem to grasp how the Campy BB is constructed. It uses three standard cartridge bearings. The BB can be disassembled and new bearings installed. A cartridge bearing is a complete unit that includes the bearing, seals, inner race and outer race.
A Campy BB overhaul requires two 6803 bearings and one 6903 bearing.
These bearings can be purchased for as little as $6 each.
Try www.biketoolsetc.com or www.mcmaster.com.
|I believe you also need a bearing puller and press? nm||TFerguson|
May 20, 2003 5:21 AM
|Cool never had new one apart It looked like a unit ..||the bull|
May 20, 2003 8:33 AM
|when I put mine in!|
|Whot's WCB??........nm||Rusty Coggs|
May 20, 2003 7:34 AM
|Whatcha Callit Bikeshop! : )||the bull|
May 20, 2003 8:30 AM
|Wise Cycle Buys, sorry!|
|The Record BB is crappy||purplepaul|
May 20, 2003 8:13 AM
|and you'd do better to install something better like a Phil Wood. You'll be leaving that to your grandchildren.
The carbon seatpost is finicky. Not that it's bad, it just requires more care than "regular" posts.
The powerlink has been mentioned on these boards as something that is loved and hated. There are solutions to all your problems, but I don't blame you for being angry.
|campy should warranty it||weiwentg|
May 20, 2003 11:44 AM
|make sure to have the BB shell faced so that both sides are parallel; this could have contributed to a worn BB. otherwise, most BBs don't die that fast, particularly not top of the line ones. Campy should warranty it.|
|campy should warranty it||russw19|
May 20, 2003 12:11 PM
|Yes!!! Finally I am not alone in harping on the fact that most people neglect to have their frames prepped and it kills bottom brackets prematurely!
Thanks for backing my normal statements about that!
|I'm not impressed with campy bb either||BenR|
May 22, 2003 4:21 PM
|My first Chorus unit died fairly suddenly (within 150 miles of first noticing axle play) at 6-7,000 miles. This is kind of short life for a supposedly solid and expensive bb. Found out after I threw it out that the bearings could be replaced. This isn't obvious, especially since everything looks machine-pressed on the drive side. And after $30 for bearings + $20 labor, it wasn't worth it anyway.
Just replaced it with another Chorus unit and there is excessive grinding/creaking/popping while pedaling and axle turns roughly when spinning it with my fingers. Frame has been faced and threads chased and I'm using proper torque settings. I've paid two mechanics to fiddle with it to varying degrees of success. No play in the cranks, but very noisy. I'm trying to get Campy to honor their warranty and will cough up the money for a Phil Wood after this one wears out.
The mechanics I've talked to say the cheaper Campy bb's seem to be lasting much longer. They're also tanks, supposedly flexier, and the wrong length for Chorus/Record cranks.
|Pro peloton prefers Chorus BB to Record(2)||wielerpret|
May 23, 2003 3:15 AM
|...because they have also realized that not all Campy stuff is always what its cracked up to be...
This well kept secret I heard from an insider at my LBS.
Cheers for your contribution everybody. Let's hope that lots of sincere criticism from forums like this will make the arrogant Campy people think again. Shimano has a far better reputation (in the Netherlands at least) for customer service and warranty. There is much to be gained there.