|Best tires for job||Sam1|
May 18, 2003 2:16 PM
|I weigh 110 (female), scandium frame (have ridden mtbs for years, but this is first road bike), Velocity Aeroheads built by Mike G. (thanks to all of you who recommended him) and would like an every day tire that's light, doesn't flat too easy and comfortable. My LBS suggested Michelin Pro Races for comfort (over Conti gp3000s), but they don't seem to last that long. Anyone tried the Conti Attack/Force?
May 18, 2003 3:23 PM
|I tried them out after my last set of Conti's. Very supple ride. I really felt like all high end clinchers gave a pretty similar ride. I was wrong, these are as close as you can get to a tubular feel with clinchers I have found. At 180 grams they are pretty light. I only have about 400 miles on them so i can't speak to the longevity or flat resistance. If they hold up I have found my new favorite tire.
Otherwise, IMO it's a toss up between Conti GP and Michelin Pro Race. The Michelins are lighter and corner a little better but the Conti's seem to hold up better. It's pretty tough to find a tire that will do it all but these three come pretty close.
May 18, 2003 4:36 PM
|She asked for something that would last. Collective experience would suggest that a 180 gm tire is not high on any list of durable tires. Any one of the Michelin Pro Race, Conti GP 3000, Vredestein Fortezza TriComp would be a fine tire and are generally available for around $30 if you shop on the Internet.|
|Hold On! Veloflex=durable||cipolini2b|
May 18, 2003 6:26 PM
|I actually raced on a pair of Veloflex Record clinchers (130 grams!) for almost all of last year. Crits, road races, bad surface, time trials (which is their intended use), and those tires held up perfectly. Only flatted once when I ran over an industrial size staple which could flatter a small car tire. After 100s of race miles, a teammate crashed them, otherwise i'd still be using them. I'd imagine that the 180 gram paves are even more durable then the records. Also, I ride michelin pro race now. They are crap. Very fragile, flatted after my first 18 miles, and 115 psi is tooo soft. Paves are my next tire.|
May 18, 2003 7:44 PM
|I've ridden several pairs of Veloflex pave's, and love the ride. Durability was a problem, however, with fairly frequent flats. When I had 5 flats in three days, 3 in one ride (brand new tube every time) I decided enough was enough. I replaced them with Gommitalia Targa's. Gommitalia's are made by the same folks as Veloflex, but the Targa's are 200 gr. instead of the 180 gr. Pave's. Huge improvement, very few flats since the change. Feel of the tire is the same.
In several 10's of thousands of miles of riding, I've never had a run of flat tires like I had with the Pave's. Maybe it was just incredibly bad luck, but when I ditched the tires the streak of flats ended. Seems like empirical evidence to me.
|Actually what she asked for||grandemamou|
May 19, 2003 1:57 PM
|first was something light and comfortable and then later mentions durability. It's pretty tough if not impossible to get all three. There are tradeoffs in all high end clinchers. The differences are very slight. Everyone has their own preferences and what they are willing to accept in tradeoffs.
My best advice is to try them if you don't like them try another pair in a couple of thousand miles.
|I like the Veloflex Paves||carpe_podium|
May 18, 2003 8:33 PM
|I weighed them. Avg. weight (from a 3 tire sample) was 191g. I haven't had any flats, about 800 mi. (races) on the tires. The rear is wearing faster than the front (like every other tire). I think the Targa's are good tires too, they're just more expensive. The Pave's claim to fame is durability. I don't think they are "everyday" tires though. Get Michelin Carbons or Vred Fortezzas for nice everyday tires. Race tires aren't meant to be used on everyday training\commuting rides - it just "wastes" them. However, I see people training on Zipps and Conti Comp tubbies all the time. You spends your money and you makes your choice...|
|VeloFlex Pave A+||the Phantom|
May 20, 2003 7:43 AM
|2000 miles, little wear, handle and ride great, zero flats or problems. Best to rotate the front to rear at some point for truely best results. BTW, run them at 110 PSI, no greater.|| |