|What's the best component group for the money?||dubyafan|
Apr 29, 2003 6:04 PM
|To the collective:
I've been riding a Bianchi Eros with Campy Mirage 8 speed triple for 5 years. I'm about to buy a LeMond Victoire which comes with Ultegra. I was hoping that when I upgraded bikes that a higher end component group would knock my socks off. But Ultegra doesn't seem that much better than Mirage. The shop that is selling me the bike suggests building it with Campy Chorus 9 speed. He'd charge an additional $250 for the upgrade to Chorus. Is it worth it? I haven't test ridden a bike with Chorus (maybe I should). Or should I go all out and go with Chorus 10 (a lot more expensive)? What's the best bang for the buck? I'm willing to spend the money - if it's really worth it. Thanks.
|YES get the chorus!||the bull|
Apr 30, 2003 3:28 AM
|I think it is better than Dura-ace and shifts as good as Record.Nuff said!|
|Chorus 10 worth it now. nm||Spunout|
Apr 30, 2003 3:53 AM
Apr 30, 2003 4:13 AM
|I think the longevity of the Chorus is greater than Ultegra. I have 9-speed Chorus on my bike and wouldn't pay $10 to switch to brand new Dura-Ace. I would try a bike with Chorus prior to buying just to convince yourself. Not to mention the fact that you allready have Campy and it would just be wrong to switch to Shimano. I don't think the additional money for 10-speed is worth it personally, but it is up to you.|
|Chorus 9speed for $250 installed is a real deal||Leroy|
Apr 30, 2003 4:48 AM
|I have Chorus 9 speed and like it fine. I thought about an upgrade to 10 but it isn't worth it to me. I'd go with 9-speed.|
|C9 vs. C10: My (mindless) thoughts...||Dale Brigham|
Apr 30, 2003 6:09 AM
Good for you that you are rejecting the Dark Side (Shimano) and moving to The Light (Campagnolo). Since my household (me and the wifey) have both 9 and 10 speed Campy-equipped bikes, I'd like to share my pros and cons of each drivetrain.
10 Speed (C10):
Pro -- Mo' cogs ("this one goes to 10"), good cogset range (12-21 to 13-29), latest model (least obsolete), works great.
Con -- Chains and cogsets expensive (relative to C9)
9 Speed (C9):
Pro -- Chains and cogsets reasonably priced (relative to C10, about half the price), lots of chain choices (SRAM, Shimano, etc, although I prefer Campy), good cogset range (12-21 to 13-28), works great.
Con -- Not the latest (i.e., obsolete sooner than C10, but I guess it would be a decade or more before Campy quits making C9 parts), one less cog (will you miss it?).
In short, C9 upkeep (chains and cogsets) would be a bit cheaper in the long run than C10, and C10 looks to be around a bit longer on the marketplace (after C11 and C12 debut!) than C9. I sort of prefer C9, but then, I'm a grouchy old Luddite. Both are excellent choices. Please let us know what you decide, OK?
|Hijack: "..this one goes to 10..." re: Spinal Tap reunion||Spunout|
Apr 30, 2003 6:53 AM
|You must see 'A Mighty Wind'. Spinal tap re-incarnated as "The Folksmen". I still can't get 'Best in Show' out of my mind though.
|re: What's the best component group for the money?||russw19|
Apr 30, 2003 2:14 PM
|First, before I say my opinions on all this, I have to say that I own both a Campy Record 10 bike and a Dura-Ace bike. Personally, I like the Record group more as a whole, but I like the ergonomics of the Shimano STI shifter over the Campy Ergopower. Also on my Record bike, I don't run a campy crank or BB, or campy brake calipers, or hubs. So really, my Campy 10 bike is Shifters and Derailleurs only. I have an FSA crank and BB, King headset, Cane Creek and American Classic wheels, Cane Creek brakes (until my Cat's get here) and a Connex chain. My Dura-Ace bike is fully Dura-Ace. So that all said......
Get the Chorus, but stick with the 9 speed. A Chorus 9 cassette and chain are half the price of the Chorus 10 set up. Everything else is the same. And when you go from a 9 speed to 10 speed set up you are really only getting one gear in the middle to close down the ratio. If you are very meticulous about maintaining a set RPM cadence, this matters to you (like it does to the pros) but if you don't get that precise in your cadence, this won't affect you that much.
So I would say go Chorus (and get better wheels than the Bontragers that LeMond comes with, like Cane Creeks!) but go Chorus 9. It's worth the upgrade to Chorus, but not really worth the extra to get one more cog in the rear.
|Deffinetly go Chorus||slide13|
May 1, 2003 9:19 AM
|Be it 9 or 10 speed go with Chorus. What is the price differnce between the 9 and 10 speed? If it is within a couple hundred dollars I would go ten speed. Otherwise 9 will probably be fine.|| |