|chains for Record 10||ndeibert|
Apr 28, 2003 12:36 PM
|I know that other than the campy chain, Wipperman makes a chain for Record too. I've heard that a DuraAce chain and even a SRAM chain will work with Record 10 components. Can anyone confirm this? Also, how often should a campy chain be replaced? 5000km, more, less?? Thanks!|
|re: chains for Record 10||carpe_podium|
Apr 28, 2003 2:48 PM
|I've used the Wipperman, Dura Ace and the older perma link Campy chain. Stay away from the Wipperman - it's noisy and it doesn't shift as well. The Dura Ace chain works well (maybe doesn't shift as quickly as the Campy chain), but it's roughly the same price as the new Campy chain, no reason to use any chain besides Campy. The new Campy chain works really well.|
|re: chains for Record 10||russw19|
Apr 29, 2003 2:35 PM
|I bought a Whipperman Stainless for my Record 10 bike, for one reason only... I have a set of wheels that I run an American Classic conversion cassette on. It's not compatible with the Campy Permalink. So rather than just get the Campy chain and run the Connex link or the KMC link, I decided to try out the Whipperman stainless chain. I had never used a Whipperman chain before and I wanted to give it a go... I am glad I did, as I have had no problems with it.
But there's a catch... it's not as light as the Record chain, it's not as smooth shifting (but this is nit picking if you ask me... it's so darn close....) as the Record chain, and the kicker... it's more expensive than the Record chain. KMC just started making a Campy 10 compatible chain (6.25mm wide, so it's slightly wider) than the Campy, but it's cheaper by almost 40%. I will test one out of curiousity once my Whipperman dies. I think KMC is trying to give an alternative to the Campy chain for people running Chorus and lower. As there is only one model chain from Campy right now. But when it comes out, I will test it. Also, I wouldn't have thought that SRAM would have made a Campy 10 compatible chain, as they really only try to compete with Shimano, but with it now being confirmed that Dura-Ace will be 10 speed next year.. I expect to see a new chain from them soon.
But my advice for the average everyday guy who doesn't work in a shop and therefore get to play with new chains every two months... get the Campy C-10 chain and be happy with it. If you really want to take it off a lot to clean it, get a connex or kmc link for it.
|stick with record...||C-40|
Apr 28, 2003 5:45 PM
|The campy record chain is the best there is, IMO. If you need to remove it for cleaning, get a Wipperman Connex link to join it, for tool-free removal.
Wouldn't mess with chains that were not designed for the narrow cog spacing. The SRAM chain is exactly the same width as a Campy 9 speed chain. Campy didn't make the 10 speed chain narrower just for the fun of it.
As for changing a chain, this has been answered more times than I can count. Change it before it's worn out. From three days ago:
Mileage means nothing when it comes to chain wear. Some folks get 4 times the wear of others depending on the method of maintenance and riding conditions.
Either get a Park chain checker or a 12 inch long machinists scale to measure the increase in length due to wear. When the chain length has increased .5% or 1/16 inch over 12 inches, it's time to change.
A new chain will measure exactly 12 inches center to center or edge to edge over the span of 24 pins. Placing the scale on the edge of a pin, the pin on the opposite end of the scale will be completely covered. As the chain wears, the covered pin will begin to peak out from the under the scale. When the amount of pin showing approaches 1/2 the diameter of the pin, the chain has lengthened .07 inch or a little more that .5% worn. Change before reaching that amount of wear.
Personally, I can get 4000 miles from chain and never get close to .5% wear. I usually find that side wear deteriorates shifting before the chain is worn .5% and change it just to improve shifting.