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numb, numb, numb (need new saddle)(23 posts)

numb, numb, numb (need new saddle)pkompath
Apr 8, 2003 6:50 AM
I did my first metric century and unfortunately, it wasnt the best, nor comfortable due to the saddle. The discomfort was so bad that Im still experiencing numbness. The question for you all is: "What is the best f**kin saddle available without breaking my bank account?" I prefer no gel, hole in the seat, and not too much cushion, etc., just cool and comfortable. Suggest something please.
re: numb, numb, numb (need new saddle)cdhbrad
Apr 8, 2003 7:00 AM
I happen to like the SI Prolink, Trans Am, Gelflow. I have ridden it on a number of similar rides without any of the discomforts you experienced. Unfortunately, it doesn't meet two of your criteria in that it has a hole in the seat (which does wonders for relieving numbness) and light gel, which I find helpful to the rest of my rear on longer rides.
Unless you are convinced that its the saddle itself that created your problems, check the saddle position. If the nose is tipped up a bit, it can contribute to numbness.
Good Luck.
Your 'wish list' described what many peopleOldEdScott
Apr 8, 2003 7:07 AM
find with a Brooks. You may not want to pay the weight penalty though. A thick hunk of hide can be heavy.
Your 'wish list' described what many peopleBaadDawg
Apr 8, 2003 9:30 AM
I've had a Brooks pro in the same bike for almost 30 years. Can't say I especially like it. Took 15 years to break in and even broken in I get numb nuts.
You've been riding a saddle you hate for 30 years??OldEdScott
Apr 8, 2003 10:21 AM
That's gotta be the record!

It does show that Brookses last a long time though. They're expensive but you get your money's worth!

Seriously, you either love Brookses or hate them. They seem to be popular among tourists and long-distance riders though. Lon Haldeman rode a Brooks. I wouldn't ride anything else. But there's always the potential for 30 years of misery in any saddle purchase.
You've been riding a saddle you hate for 30 years??BaadDawg
Apr 8, 2003 11:52 AM
No I don't hate it. Can't say I love it either. Hard to love numb nuts.

My theory on a saddle is you don't break it in, it breaks you in.

Other than being a bit more springy than it was hard as rocks new, its virtually the same today as it was when I bought it.

Still going to try a Selle Italia on my new ride I'm about to pick up. Either the Max Trans Am, the Flite Trans AM Gel Flow, or the Max Trans Am Gel Flow.

Will report back on how the ass feels.

Brooks Pro stays on the old fella being used for now on a trainer.
TurbomaticPaulCL
Apr 8, 2003 7:15 AM
Sella Italia turbomatic. I recently went from the turbo to the gel flite. Easy switch but I've been riding turbo's for about ten years. If you live in the Cincinnati, Ohio area you can borrow my old turbo for a test ride for a couple of weeks.
re: numb, numb, numb (need new saddle)Niemand
Apr 8, 2003 7:27 AM
Buy a Turbomatic 2 (with the manganese rails), I've had one for the last seven years
Very comfortable over any distance (up to an imperial century for me) great build quality (lots of cowhide), not too expensive since later models have come out. Kinda heavy (in the region of 350-400g) , but your arse and other bits will thank you.
Let me ask some questions:MXL02
Apr 8, 2003 8:01 AM
Has your saddle ever bothered you before? If not, your problem may be more related to your technique and fitness level rather than a problem with the saddle. You need to be constantly shifting your weight during a long distance ride. Make sure your saddle is level, and that the nose is not pointing up. Most of the time, your sitter starts to get sore toward the end of a long ride, not so much because it has been sitting for a long time, but because your legs are tired and they can't keep your weight off your a$$.

Now having said all that, if you still feel you need a different saddle, I would suggest the Selle Italia Prolink, maybe a TransAM edition, or a Terry or Koobi(both are very into the hole in the saddle design). I would purchase several models from Performance, try them all out, then return the ones you don't like. Performance will let you do that...above board and very legal, while many LBSes will not. If your LBS will allow you to try several saddles, then by all means use them rather than Performance. Good luck
the best optiontarwheel
Apr 8, 2003 9:29 AM
Buying saddles can blow your cycling budget pretty quickly unless you're lucky the first time. I would follow MXL02's advice and purchase from a store that has a good selection of models and a lenient return policy. Performance will do that as well as some local shops. Also, several brands of saddles have 30-day no-questions-asked return policies, notably Koobi, Avocet and Terry. I tried the Terry Fly and it didnt' work for me, but the Koobi saddles fit me perfect. Unfortunately, saddle comfort is such a personal issue that the only way to find out what works for you is to buy some saddles and put some miles on them. Good luck.
Let me ask some questions:pkompath
Apr 8, 2003 9:35 AM
Yes, and I knew it was going to get worse on longer rides. The ride was a little too long, and I hadnt really train well enough to do the mileage. The legs were weak also after 30 miles and no form of energy boosters helped at all. This is a good way for me to spend a lot of money on biking equipment (joy!!!).
Fizik Aliantepurplepaul
Apr 8, 2003 8:25 AM
Without a doubt the most comfortable saddle I've ever had.
2nd the Aliante..koala
Apr 8, 2003 8:35 AM
If you can stomach the cost. I have a bony backside and for me the sitbone comfort is the best by far I have experienced in 20 years and many saddles.
Pave?terry b
Apr 8, 2003 10:11 AM
On a whim I purchased a cheap Pave from eBay this past week and found it to be the most comfortable one I'd ever tried. The Aliante must be heaven.
Still having numbness?bsdc
Apr 8, 2003 9:39 AM
Forget the saddle ... you need to see a doctor if you are still having numbness. I like the Max Flight Trans Am.
Brooks Team Professional, $80Alexx
Apr 8, 2003 11:20 AM
Most comfortable saddle ever made for road bikes. Weighs nearly 1lb. Save your old @$$-killer for those times when the extra 6oz. makes a difference, and ride the Brooks the rest of the time. Or go buy another b@ll-buster and keep b!tching about it.......
brooks, brooks, brooks, brooks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cycleaddict
Apr 8, 2003 11:23 AM
The best....... Avocet O2 from Cambria CyclingBIG RING
Apr 8, 2003 2:09 PM
Don't need to see a doctorNASA Noddler
Apr 8, 2003 3:41 PM
Forget the saddle ... you need to see a doctor if you are still having numbness"

There's nothing a doctor wiill tell you except to stay off the bike/saddle till the feeling returns which it will in time.

Always get off the saddle if you have any feeling of numbness. Take a brea, whatever. The pelvic nerves exit a small opening called Alcott's Canal (sp). A bicycle seat is uniquely designed to put pressure on it. It's not, anatomically speaking, where we normally put pressure when we sit when not on a bike. hence the split design etc.

This has been the concern regarding impotence.
This thread proves the pointKerry
Apr 8, 2003 3:45 PM
There's no such thing as a comfortable saddle recommendation. What works for you won't necessarily work for others. Numbness is usually a sign of poor saddle tilt adjustment, not sitting on the saddle properly, and/or not getting out of the saddle often enough. Saddle should be in the range of "nose level with butt" to "nose level with ground." You need to be sitting on your sit bones, not on the front of the saddle. The moment you sense any numbness at all, you should be taking a few strokes while standing, doing some standing on the pedals stretches, etc.
Try changing your position...DINOSAUR
Apr 8, 2003 5:16 PM
I've gone through several saddles until I found what worked for me. Each saddle has a dial in adjustment period. I learned to level my saddle out using a small plumbers level. When you ride you should be moving back and forth alternating muscle groups(forward=quads,aft=hamstrings) depending on what you are doing. Most of your weight should be supported by your legs and when you get tired on long rides you might have a tendency to sit more and put more weight on your butt. The next time you ride see where you are sitting. Are you constantly moving forward or backward? You should be dead center and be able slide forward or back. It takes a long time to really get a bike dialed in. My guess is that if you are constantly numb, your saddle is not position right, or you have something else going on. I've used the Brooks Team Pro, San Marco Era, Selle Italia Flite Gel, Selle Italia Max Flite, Giro Pave, and San Marco Regal. The only saddle that really didn't work for me was the Fizik Pave and it's because it was too narrow. The Selle Italia Flite Gel was the easiest to dial in as it has long rails and gives you a lot of room to work with. But that's not saying it will work for you......
Such a variety...johnmyster
Apr 9, 2003 10:51 AM
Again, prooves everyone's bits are different. The user above loves the Fizik Pave, which made me numb after 15 minutes. After a handful, my recent switch to the SLR has me on the best saddle yet. Yeah, it took a few weeks to get used to (to break me into it) but never any numbness. Feels great now. Suppose maybe I have a more supple backside. I have a friend who likes the Trans-Am royally. Exactly, find a good shop with a selection, tell them you're looking for a high end lasts and fast guy saddle. While I was waiting on my last bike to come in, the shop owner demo'd me a handful of saddles, until I found the one I wanted to buy with the bike.
many saddles fine if only position is correctwielerpret
Apr 10, 2003 5:17 AM
There are many fine saddles nowadays. My Pave has been perfect eversince I mounted a longer stem which I also lowered a few cm's, shifting some weight from the butt to the arms. Important is that your position keeps your tushy in its place, not sliding it forward. Move the saddle forward if necessary. A stretched out position reaching for low mounted handlebars causes your arms to automatically fix you as you simply cannot go forward any further. Yes, sort of doggy like with your backbone almost horizontal. Rather restfull actually. Might take some mileage to train your backmuscles though.
My Rolls has been a lovely thing on the right size frame, less perfect on a slightly too large one. My Aliante took several hundreds of km's and some fiddling before my numbness gradually disappeared. I cursed the expensive and overhyped thing at first, but now I like it better and better.
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