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American Classic CR 420(6 posts)

American Classic CR 420Mantra
Apr 6, 2003 4:08 PM
Have anyone tried these wheels and how are they ?
re: American Classic CR 420russw19
Apr 6, 2003 5:36 PM
Yep I ride em!

They are sweet so far. I have had them since Feb. and I have about 400 miles on them so far. They are nice and fast, stiff, smooth, and quiet. I haven't had them long enough to see if there are any long term durability issues. But from what I have seen so far, they are top notch. A perfect wheel if you want a semi aero clincher. It's hard to find aero wheels with an aluminum rim now....most are carbon, which I didn't want... I am a bit big for carbon wheels.

I had American Classic build me a set of the 420's with bladed spokes, 20 front 24 rear, which is the strongest build they offer, and they are still lighter than Ksyriums. Plus they are deep dish, enough to have an aero advantage that Ksyriums don't have. The only thing I have to say that is remotely bad is that you need to find longer valve stem tubes than normal. I have 60mm valves in there now, but those are almost too long.. I would tell you to get some 48mm valve stem tubes with them and you will be fine.

Russ
re: American Classic CR 420Mantra
Apr 7, 2003 1:23 AM
Hi Russ
What type of spokes do you have ? I'm also a big guy :-) and i'm thinking of using Sapim CX Ray, but 18 front and 24 rear ! Do you know what the weight of your wheels are ?
Thanks for the info

Carsten
re: American Classic CR 420russw19
Apr 7, 2003 2:08 PM
I had mine built with Bladed spokes. If you want strong and stiff, go that way. I also went 20 front just because it only adds like 30 grams to the weight. I checked mine on a digital postal scale when I got them... 1494 grams, which should be about 30 grams lighter than the K's. They will be lighter if you build with the CX Rays, but not as stiff, nor as strong. American Classic has a toll free number on their website.. call them and ask to speak to either Jayson or Mike. Jayson is the sales manager, and has a think Aussie accent. Mike is the head wheelbuilder. Both are really cool guys and will gladly answer your questions. Tell them what kind of riding you do and how much you weigh and they will recommend a wheelset for you. I actually asked them to over build me a wheel, as they first recommended I went 18 front, 20 rear. But I wanted super stiff and strong so we went to 20 and 24. They say that will take up to a 300 lb. rider. So I can still eat all the cheeseburgers I want and still ride that wheel...

Russ
re: American Classic CR 420Berm
Apr 7, 2003 8:10 AM
I have been running these wheels for 5 months and have approximately 2,700 miles on them. The wheels have stayed very true and are light due to the hubs. The rim seam has a slight buldge when new but will wear down with time. Also,the black where the brake contacts the rim will rub off unevenly over time.

My point of reference are Ksyriums. The Ksyriums are a better cornering wheel. Are these wheels any faster than my Ksyriums? After many, many rides, my times on certain "training loops" shows no objective speed or time advantage. Is there an aero benefit to the AC 420's? Not in my opinion. With that said, the AC 420's are good wheels. Are they work the $ versus open pros with good hubs, probably not.
Great WheelsMXL02
Apr 7, 2003 9:44 AM
they are not as stiff as the Ksyriums (which I sold), but they ride much better. They are light and very quick. They also seem to be plenty strong. I am a Clydesdale, and they have held up so far.