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Question for Kerryrussw19
Mar 23, 2003 7:48 PM
Hey Kerry, I know you like Velocity Aerohead wheels, but I am wondering if you have any expirience with the Velocity Razor rims?

I am looking to rebuild a pair of clicking Open Pros and I want a traditional box section rim with eyelets (why I don't really want to use the aeroheads) and I have seen the Razors. They look nice, but I have no expirience with them. I am wondering if you have ever seen a set and what you think. I am up in the air between those and IRD Cadence rims. Quality lists the Razors at 400 grams, but Velocity's website says 450. Any ideas?

Thanks for your time,
I really did answer this yesterday!!Kerry
Mar 25, 2003 5:01 PM
Sorry to be slow in responding - I posted a response yesterday but something happened and it didn't register, and I didn't notice.

Anyway, the essence of the answer is I only have experience with Aerohead and Deep V. The AH has a fundamentally superior design to a standard box section, allowing slightly lower weight and comparable strength at lower cost compared to the OP. It's not obvious to me why the Razor would offer any advantages to the OP. Years ago, I learned to steer clear of rims without eyelets due to all kinds of problems, but Velocity has solved those problems, so you have no reason to steer away from the AH. The only problems I've had with AH and Deep V is losing nipples in the rim during the build! You just shake them out, but it can slow down the build by 5 minutes compared to a ferruled rim.
follow up question about AH rimsrussw19
Mar 25, 2003 11:41 PM
I have had bad problems with non-eyelet rims in the past. That was why I was weary of the AH. But then I did ride a set of the Cane Creek Aeroheads for a year.. no eyelets... but the spoke head was at the rim, not the nipple. Anyways, the rims I had problems with were rims I saw in the shop. I saw a lot of Matrix Iso rims with nipples pulling thru, but they weren't really the best rims to begin with so that is most likely the reason. Anyways, what does Velocity do to solve the no eyelet problem? I can get the AH's really really cheap, so if they hold up, I might as well give them a try.

As for the Open Pros... I have a pair that click at the joints. It was a common problem with them a while back and mine do it. I am sick of listening to it, so it's time to rebuild them.

Anyways, thanks for the reply... I didn't really read the board yesterday anyways, so no worries about how long it takes.. I am just thankful for your opinion and advice.


AH design featuresKerry
Mar 26, 2003 5:11 PM
The Aerohead rim uses thin sections in the "diagonal" faces, and then puts extra metal at the tip of the triangle, which forms the spoke bed. As a result, their spoke bed is functionally much thicker than the spoke bed of a conventional box section rim. They get much of the strength of a deep section aero rim but without the weight penalty. The combination, IMO, makes for a superior design when compared to the OP.
Great! Thanks again for the info. nmrussw19
Mar 26, 2003 9:58 PM