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"Wheel/spoke/hub best combo questions"(5 posts)

"Wheel/spoke/hub best combo questions"cw05
Mar 3, 2003 12:04 PM
I'm looking to build my first ever set of wheels and am wondering what the best combo would be. The wheel set would see double duty for light loaded touring and some training on my race bike. I am thinking Mavic MA-3' s for the rims (I don't think the Open Pros would hold up to the touring) with Ultegra hubs and DT 14-15g double butted spokes with brass nipples (32 front and 36 rear). Any suggestions for a first time wheel builder? I've got a copy of Zinn Road Bike Maintenance and Sheldon Brown's article on wheel building. Any suggestions on the spoke selection? Anyone know of any sales on these items currently? Anyone know if it is possible to adapt a Shimano cassette to a Campy hub? Thanks
re: "Wheel/spoke/hub best combo questions"mcteague
Mar 3, 2003 12:14 PM
Bet you'll get lots recs for "The Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt.

The best book IMO for teaching yourself to build wheels. For just one pair it's not really worth it as you will have to get a truing jig, dish tool and tension gadget. I built a set many moons ago just to do it, now I pay someone to build them and only do everyday truing myself. So little time, so little patience.

Tim McTeague
Shimano Cassette on Campy hub...Spunout
Mar 4, 2003 4:45 AM
Look in the shop catalogue for parts under Campy wheels. There is a Shimano spline that will fit all current campy hubs and wheels. Just make the switch and use your shimano cassette and drivetrain.

I thinkburdiman
Mar 4, 2003 5:42 AM
you are on the right track. Use the components you have spec'd and you should have a good set of wheels. I purchased a tensiometer over a year ago and wouldn't build without one now. Kind of pricey but it really helps you dial in the right tension (critical for long-lasting, reliable wheels).
re: "Wheel/spoke/hub best combo questions"DaveLobster
Mar 4, 2003 6:11 AM
I fully support you in your effort to build your own wheels. You will get tremendous satisfaction out of having a strong pair of wheels you built yourself.

I like the specs. The MA3 is an often-overlooked bargain at 1/2 the price of the Open Pro. Other rims to consider are the WTB Speedmaster 700c (check nashbar & & the Bontrager Valiant. The Bontragers have the advantage of offset spoke drilling on the rear which will build a stronger rear wheel. You can order the Bontrager rims at any Trek dealer.

The only problem with the Ultegra hubs (other than not being weight-weenie light) is that the oversized spoke holes may eventually lead to spoke breakage (there is an earlier post on this). This happens a lot less with a well-tensioned wheel. You can prevent it entirely with spoke-head washers, or by using DT Alpine spokes which are 2.3mm at the head.

For your first pair, have an experienced wheel-builder double check your work before you hit the road.

And you can convert current-generation campy hubs to shimano, but the part costs about $18 more than an entire Ultegra rear hub.

Good luck - Dave