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Shimano WH-7701 or Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL?(5 posts)

Shimano WH-7701 or Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL?jtsk
Feb 27, 2003 9:09 AM
I am a larger rider (about 200-215 lbs depending on season) and am looking for a durable high-end wheel set.....if there is such a thing. So far, from the reviews I've seen, these two seem like the best with the Shimano wheels having a slight edge in rugged-ness.

I know that the Ksyriums are ridden much more than the Shimanos, but I don't know why.

I am not a racer, but do ride over 3000 year on some rough roads at respectible speeds.

Thanks.
re: Shimano WH-7701 or Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL?Grand Strand Cyclists
Feb 27, 2003 1:25 PM
Either the Shimano or the Mavic are great wheels. But I suspect that you will find that the the majority of the riders prefer the Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL or its durability, functionality and design.

As I have ridden many different wheel set over the years my first preference for training on the flats and hills is the Mavic Ksyrium's of even the Mavic Cosmos.

Never the less the Shimano is a great wheel but you have to use caution when aligning your brake pads to prevent the rubbing of the dual spokes.

I suspect that you will receive differing views but once again it is preference and ultimately the price of the wheelset.

enjoy the ride
re: Shimano WH-7701 or Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL?wackycyd
Mar 1, 2003 1:18 PM
Basically Ksyriums have more spokes, but are made from a lighter grade of alloy, 'Maxtal' to be exact, which Mavic claim is 30% stronger and lighter than normal rim alloy, don't know the exact number for it, 6???, anyway, this is pretty much by the by, the most important thing to consider is the pro's and con's, which I would list as:-)

Ksyriums -

1) 28 holer's, good for racing and training use = +

2) flat bladed spokes, extra weight, but
stronger than standard round spokes = +/-

3) Semi deep rims, strong and make for a comfier
ride = +

4) Sealed bearings in hubs, 2 years of hassle free'ish
bearings = +

5) They look the bizz! = +

Shimano's -

1) 16 holer's, better suited to silky smooth
training routes, I've had a spoke go and it makes
for a rather out of true wheel, not good if your
miles from home, good for racing though = -/+

2) Flattish bladed spokes, but not enough of 'em = -

3) Rims are aero section, so good and strong, shame
about the spokes, though = -

4) Dura-Ace internals, so titanium body etc = +

Not meaning to be offensive or the likes, you say that you weigh in @ 200 - 215lbs, dependent on season and that you ride 3000k a year.

So which one's you gonna go for?...............If it we're me, go for the Ksyrium's, better safe than sorry!

Wackycyd
re: Shimano WH-7701 or Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL?jtsk
Mar 2, 2003 4:43 PM
Well, I'm not sure. From what you say, I'd do better with the Ksyriums. Sounds like you've had some negative experiences with the Shimanos staying true. I do ride some rough roads, but mostly typical roads that are medium to smooth.

I don't see very many Shimano wheels in this part of the world (Oklahoma) and maybe there is a reason for that. Actually, they are kind of hard to find around here and that may be the reason you don't see them on many bikes.

I've never seen anybody say anything negative about the Ksyriums not being aero, because by today's standards, they aren't aero at all. What are your thoughts?

Looks - Not that it's that important and I'd never spend this much just on looks, but........I see just about everybody say how good the Ksyriums look, but I think the Shimanos are much sexier looking. Actually the K's look a little bulky and clunky and aren't sleek at all. Kind of like a Volvo...good, but not very attractive. I guess beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.
re: Shimano WH-7701 or Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL?wackycyd
Mar 4, 2003 11:20 AM
In the long run I'd say you're gonna get more out of the Ksyrium's than the Shimano's, which I personally feel when using on a training ride, it makes you feel that you're riding on egg shells so as not to break a spoke, but then again the roads aren't that much cop over here, I'm in the UK by the way.

I fully agree with you in that the Shimano's look sexier, and the K's look kinda bulky, although when you pick them up it does surprise how light they really are.

With regards to aero dynamics, aero spokes only really come into their own on wheels with less than 28 holes, so the spokes on the K's don't really do much in the way of aerodynamics, a kinda mix and match wheelset I've always thought, but at the end of the day they are a good all round wheelset and will deliver what you want from them.

Hope this is of some help.