Feb 15, 2003 3:59 PM
|I will be getting rid of my rat trap pedals (and old shoes with rat trap wedge).
I have pretty much decided on Look pedals as my first clipless. Ruled out Shimano due to the reported 'hot spot' from small size and the Look being larger. Besides, if I can walk in those bulky old shoes, I can walk in anything!
I have rulled out Looks bottom of line 206 'plastic' pedal and move up to the next level - aluminum.
2003 Look A3.1 is $99, full retail at both m/o and LBS.
2002 Look PP357, PP337 and PP396 are all discounted up to 50% both m/o and LBS.
Was there a significant difference between the 2003 and 2002 models that would give preference to 2003 models? The A 3.1 doesn't even show up on Look's web site! Since these are my first clipless, will purchase at LBS for fitting and trainer practice on my bike.
Thanks in advance.
|coincidence, I just saw the new Looks for the first time.||mwood|
Feb 15, 2003 4:44 PM
|I just stopped by my LBS and saw a couple of examples of the 2003 Looks. I've used PP206's for awhile and think they are just wonderful with the red cleats. BTW, they are the lightest of the Looks...not saying much.
Anyhow, it looks like the new pedals are narrower (from crank to outside of pedal) and smaller, but don't seem to be a lot lighter. I'm thinking the old style would be a better purchase, if you need them right now.
|re: Look Pedals||rogue_CT1|
Feb 15, 2003 5:48 PM
|I use the P396. They are excellent and reliable. Don't pay more than $79 for them. You can find them all day on e-bay for $69-$79.|
|re: Look Pedals||RickMTB|
Feb 16, 2003 7:45 AM
|Just used my 396 Teams for the first time (before I had used my MTB's Time ATACs). So far, so good... in fact, they are comfortable, quiet (no squeeking yet), and I was surprised that I don't need float (I started off with zero dgree, bumped up to 3 degrees just to get a little movement, but I expected to need the 6 degree which would match my MTB float). Got mine for $99.
The newest Shimanos are supposed to be nice... pretty much Look-like in size and design. But pretty darn expensive. I would have considered the Times but they were too expensive too.
I didn't even consider the newest Looks... figured they just slapped on new decals to get the "I need the latest model" crowd.
|re: Look Pedals||Ian|
Feb 16, 2003 7:27 PM
|The main differences are going to be in the material (plastic, aluminum, carbon), spring tension (entry and release), and float (adjustable or not).
206 - current model, plastic, 6-11nm spring tension
337 - discontinued, aluminum, 6-11nm spring tension
A3.1 - current model, aluminum, 8-12nm spring tension
357 - current model, aluminum, 8-12nm spring tension
396 - discontinued, aluminum, 11-16nm spring tension, adjustable float
A5.1 - current model, aluminum, 11-16nm spring tension, adjustable float
CX-6 - current model, carbon, 12-18nm spring tension, adjustable float, adjustable q-factor
CX-6 Ti - same as above, ti spindle, no rider weight limit, lightest pedal in Look line
CX-7 - current model, carbon, 12-18nm spring tension, adjustable q-factor, adjustable cant
That covers the highlights. The pedals have slightly differnt shapes. I thought the 337 was rather bland, but the new A3.1 looks much better. That is all personal preference though. Also, the black cleat gives no float, regardless of the pedal. The red cleat gives 9 degrees of float, unless changed with an adjustable float model.
|Thanks, that helps.||ibhim|
Feb 17, 2003 4:59 AM
|While the 396 looks tempting on e-bay, will go through LBS for fitting and trainer practice.
Will probably kick myself later for overpaying, but that is a different issue.
|why over pay||zooog|
Feb 17, 2003 7:23 AM
|by the pedals from the UK dude on e-bay. Heck, why your buying the pedals ante up from some sidi's. Save a ton of friggin money. Fitting. Here try on the shoe. Screw the cleat on and off you go. Trainer practice???|
Feb 17, 2003 9:56 AM
Many years ago I mastered the rattraps with no problem. Just have seen some beginners with clipless take some tumbles that made me leery to where the trainer practice and fitting sounded good.
After 10 years on a bike (and decades repaiting bikes and cars) should be no problem.