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Need Help with a Pedal ProblemCisitalia
Feb 12, 2003 4:08 PM
Hi I am new to the road bike scene, having been riding mountain bikes previously. I got a 2002 Trek 5500 with all Dura-Ace components and my selection on all of the rest of the parts. It is a great bike and more than I need, but I can grow with it. I was using my Shimano 959 mountain bike pedals and shoes until I switched to road stuff. I got the new Shimano Dura-Ace SPD SL PD-7750 pedals with new (2001) Shimano SPD-R SH-R212 shoes. They work fine until about 5-8 miles into a ride when a burning hot spot develops on the ball of my foot under the cleats. I have adjusted the cleats to all possible positions. I have found moving the shoe closest to the crank helps some, but still burns at about 8 miles. It also kinda numbs the area, even at times to the small toes.

I know this should not happen with quality components. Adjustments are the only thing I know to do to experiment in comfort. So I am asking the experienced people on this board for help, which I respect many people here.

What I am not looking for is people bashing Shimano for in their opinion better other components. So I hope there is some people that can help me with the components I presently have. If I try every thing possible and still fail, I will consider other components to replace with.

Thanks to all in advance for the help.

Brad
Check shoes?mass_biker
Feb 12, 2003 5:33 PM
If you switched to new pedals AND new shoes, it could be that the new shoes are too tight/fit differently. You stated that you went from mtn shoes to road shoes, which often are narrower, stiffer, less flexible etc.

The "burning hot spot" often comes from a weird shoe fit. When I went from Times (large pedal platform) to Speedplays (tiny pedal platform), I developed a hot spot that was pronounced when I was standing out of the saddle. Turns out my Northwave shoes had thinner insoles and were just not padded enough.

The solution was to put a running shoes insole (or one of those cushy Dr. Scholls thingies) in the footbed to replace the Euro-stylin' Northwave (read - stylish but uncomfortable) insole and that was that. Problem solved. I actually use the insole bought from a hiking/outdoor store in my Northwaves and they work like a charm...and they have lasted me through two sets of road shoes.

I would think that since the pedal platform on the new Shimano pedal is fairly large, it is more the shoe, than the pedal.

MB
Check shoes?Cisitalia
Feb 12, 2003 6:47 PM
Hi MB,

I thank you very much for your post. These are the types of experiences that are valuable. What you said makes sense. I talked to my LBS that I use (previous pros that were on tour) which has been a tremendous help in my bike setup and educationally. I mentioned different insert soles and they prematurely cast doubt at it. That was going to be my try on the fix. I am so glad that you mentioned this and I will immediately get some replacements. My shoes do not fit too tight, but as you said when I just stand on the shoes/pedals I feel the hot/hard spot without even pedaling. So you are right it is sensitive and maybe more cushioning will provide a better fit to the strong/solid foundation of the carbon/graphite soles of the R212s.

OBTW, I just went and felt the soles in the cleat area and they are very, very hard. So this is a good area to try.

Thanks again for your help.

Brad
Check shoes?atpjunkie
Feb 12, 2003 7:28 PM
harder platform can do this. if you have the room try an insole as previous poster said. in a quick fix, get the thick double sided foam tape and use it to hold your insole in place. it provides a bit of extra cushion and thermal barrier
Check shoes?Cisitalia
Feb 13, 2003 9:04 PM
Thank you for the input. I have just put in some extra cushion type soles and plan on trying them on Friday. If I need extra cushion I will try the foam tape which I think could be a great idea. I appreciate your input.
re: Need Help with a Pedal ProblemMR_GRUMPY
Feb 13, 2003 12:51 PM
The Shimano shoes are as stiff as you can get, so there shouldn't be any hot spots. Obviously there is, so the problem might be that your feet just don't like Shimano shoes. I've got a pair of Shimano 212's, and love them. I also have a pair of Addias carbon shoes that fit well, but can only wear in races up to an hour because of hot spots.
re: Need Help with a Pedal ProblemCisitalia
Feb 13, 2003 9:11 PM
Thank you for your reply. Yes I like the R212s except for this problem. Friday should tell if the extra cushion in soles work. Yes you are right, some times certain shoes just don't work with some feet. I find that all the time with normal shoes that we wear all the time. I am trying to be optimistic on the change of inner soles. If no change I guess I am in the market for differect shoes.