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What rims?lancer1558
Feb 9, 2003 8:39 PM
I will have a new wheelset built in the near future and would like to stay away from Mavic Open Pros if possible. Hubs will be Campy Chorus.
I would like to look at Ambrosio, Sun and Torelli (Ambrosio).
Also, Alex markets a wheelset with Hubs. i have no knowledge of Alex but I saw Nashbar's Ad and was suprised how cheap the rim was. How good are Alex's rims?
re: What rims?Woof the dog
Feb 9, 2003 10:25 PM
whats ur weight and spoke number you are planning on using.

Velocity aerohead are good rims, but not as solid as mavic rims due to their shallower depth compared to say cxp 33 and also because they use a softer metal to make them lighter i assume.

Why are you trying to stay away from open pros?

Alex rims are not as good, you get what you pay for I'd say.
Isn't sun old?

can anyone back me up?

Woof the god.
re: What rims?lancer1558
Feb 9, 2003 11:04 PM
I will be using hubs with 32 holes, front and back. My weight is 225 lbs.
I believe Mavic rims are over priced (my experience so far has been with mountain biking and now I want to get into road biking.)I had 3 wheelsets built, 2 were Mavic 517s and one was Matrix, rim weight was 395 grams for all rims, and Matrix is as good as the Mavic 517s IMHO.
Also, I want to check what is out there before I buy.
re: What rims?Woof the dog
Feb 10, 2003 12:50 AM
I am sure most folks will tell you that Mavic makes the best rims out there. Prices are reasonable too, in my opinion. I don't mtn. bike but 395 grams for a mtn. rim seems too light, are you sure that was the weight of the rim? In any case I heard that mavic cxp33 are good stiff rims. For your weight I would actually get Velocity DeepV. This is a very strong rim from what i hear. It weighs more than some, but at your weight I am afraid you gonna start breaking stuff if you go too light. 225 pounds is 115 pounds more than me, no offense, and I would not say my wheels always stay true either.

Keep in mind that no internet message board is ever going to replace a live human being talking to you based on his personal experience. Go out and visit a few bikeshops and just talk to older mechanics who you'd trust and who know what they are talking about. Do not talk to sales people and just tell them you are researching your options.


Woof the dog.
re: What rims?inallston
Feb 10, 2003 4:37 AM
I would stay away from those Alex rims. My Redline cross bike came with them, and they were the first things to go. The rims were clunky, heavy, and a lousy ride. Try calling Excel. I had a pair of CXP-33 rims(black) laced to Chris King hubs(black) with DT 14/15 spokes(black) for $490.

re: What rims?scorpionking
Feb 10, 2003 7:53 PM
At your weight go with CXP-33's, Velocity Deep V's or even Velocity Fusions. I would stay away from the Velocity aeroheads at your weight, they have no eyelets and the rim is pretty flexy even for smaller ridrs , for your size it would probably ride like a wet noodle. Weight weenies think if something os a few grams lighter it automatically means its better, not true. Any decent hub built to eith CXP-33, Vel Deep V or Fusion rims with 14/15 gauge spokes would build into a very solid , durable wheel which probably would not lead lots of truing.
CXP33s, Sun ME14As (like OpenPros) should be fine...Quack
Feb 10, 2003 8:43 AM
I've had great luck with CXP33s, older CXP30s, even CXP21s. If you like the Open Pro specs but don't want the Mavic price or reliability issues, I would go with the Sun ME14a rims. Sun also makes a rim called a Swift TA1 that is semi-aero and looks really cool but I haven't tried it. It looks like the the old CXP30 in black. Unfortunately, I think they go for about $75 each and are over 500g.

Good luck!

FiR Zenith/SC170 or DRC LH-17 (nm)Ye Olde Balde One
Feb 11, 2003 3:57 AM
Ambrosio/Sun experienceDaveLobster
Feb 11, 2003 2:57 PM
I built a pair of wheels with Ambrosio Balance rims for a 210 lb rider, and they have held up fine. They have a similar profile to a Velocity Aerohead, but are considerably heavier, around 500g. They were finished nicely, and built up easily. These have no eyelets.

My experience with Sun is that their rims are not so nicely finished. I had a pair of Sun Venus rims, and the rear rim developed cracks around the eyelets after one year, and I weigh a good bit less than you. The ME-14A is similar to the Venus, but shallower. Both use single eyelets.

The Torelli's look nice. The Triumph is the same as the Ambrosio Excellence. The Master is also made by Ambrosio, but is not a twin to any specific Ambrosio rim as far as I know. Both of these have double eyelets which do provide some extra strength to the rims.

My one recommendation is that since you are having the wheels custom built, go ahead and have the rear built up with 36 spokes. It will give more strength to the rear wheel, which is always the weaker wheel. The weight difference is negligible (30g+-).