|Need advice on chosing new road wheelset||djmass|
Feb 8, 2003 9:08 PM
|Hi, can anyone make some recommendations for a new road wheelset? I have a 98 trek 5500 with dura ace and weigh in at about 195 lbs without gear. I'm 6'2" and like to climb primarily. I have the nice option of being able to
buy an American Classic 420 wheelset in either the standard build or the extra strong build with bladed spokes for about $400 new or the more basic AC Velocity wheelset for about $285 delivered. Also, does anyone know what
a 2001 Spinegy Xaero wheelset with about 1,500 miles in great shape is worth? I have an extra rear freehub/bearing kit that I bought new with the wheelset. Thanks, David
|re: Need advice on chosing new road wheelset||Cootha|
Feb 8, 2003 10:52 PM
|Hi there and greetings from Down Under
have you considered any of Shimano's products? I train on a set of Shimano 535s on 105 hub with 16 spokes front and rear. The spokes are cross laced on the front and laterally laced on the drive side on the rear. I have found them excellent value and increadibly strong i.e I have hit a pothole that you could hide a basket ball in at 40 kph and not a sign of a buckle! I weigh 70 kg. They are of course not the lightest but that's why I train on them.They are v. aero - the deep rim gives them the strength and of course the weight. I race on a set of Ksyrium scc wheels which are V. stiff with the bladed spokes etc. The shimano's are not that great for climbing due to the low spoke count - heaps of flex when you load up the crank. hope thtis helps!
|re: Need advice on chosing new road wheelset||Rex Perry|
Feb 9, 2003 7:24 AM
|The AC 420's are an amazing set of wheels, but you might find a better ride for the money. I've had access to AC 420's, AC CR350's and Velomax circuit comps. The 350's are a climbers dream and the fastest accelerating wheels I've ever ridden, but maybe a little light for you. I have to tweek the spoke tension about every 100 miles and I weigh 155 pounds.
The 420's are faster on the flats and stiffer. They are a great all-around set of wheels.
Call me crazy, but I love riding the Velomax wheels. I have not touched them with a spoke wrench in over 600 miles. They are very close to the AC's in speed and climbing, and cost a lot less. The customer service is great and they throw in a new set of Michelin Pro race tires.
|re: Need advice on chosing new road wheelset||bartje|
Feb 9, 2003 2:55 PM
|I cannot comment on those wheels but I am interested to hear why you would want to get rid of the xearo wheels.
I had nothing but trouble with mine. (see my topic"spinergy xaero light")
|re: Need advice on chosing new road wheelset||djmass|
Feb 9, 2003 3:44 PM
|I'm not having any real troubles with the wheelset but feel they are too flexy for my weight. The front wheel has a weird tick that apparently is caused by the skewer but I and others can't seem to get rid of it. When I bought them, I was a bit worried about the rear hub so I bought the extra freehub/bearings just in case. I just want something that inpsires more confidence. They look pretty cool on my red, white, and blue Trek 5500 though with those blue spokes.|
|where'd you get those prices?||wolfereeno|
Feb 9, 2003 8:29 PM
|I looked on the Amclassic site and the 350's are $500 and the 420's are around $700. Got a friend or can I not add?
If I could get those wheels for the prices you mentioned it would make my current shopping effort a lot easier! I'm looking to trade up from mavic cosmos.
BTW, anyone know the diff between american classic wheels direct from them and what seems to be virtually the same wheel from Oddsandendos.com?
|where'd you get those prices?||scorpionking|
Feb 10, 2003 8:17 PM
|Forget the Ac 350's for your size. That's a race specific wheelset which for climbing under your weight would ride like a Cambells Soup wet noodle. Mike Garcia at oddsandendos.com builds with that rim and even he recommends not riding that wheel on a daily basis for an average 160 lb rider. Anyone riding that wheel on an everday basis is either a 90 lb midget or they are truing their wheels and adjusting spoke tensions probably two to three times a week. That rim has no eyelets either which makes it even poorer from a long term durability standpoint. Buy that wheel now, ride it on a daily basis and within 6-12 months max you'll be throwing it in the garbage can or having the whole thing rebuilt. Go build a pair of Open Pros or Velocity Fusions with a decent hub and you'll have all the wheel you need with far fewer headaches and the performance difference is really overrated between the flyweight clinchers and the more conventional clinchers. Show up at a race with Open Pros or Ac 350's and guess what, you'll finish in the exact same spot relative to the other riders. Seriously, you will.|
|As far as I know, they're the same||McAndrus|
Feb 12, 2003 6:53 AM
|I just got an AC350 front wheel from oddsandendos. The quality seems excellent and the price is better than directly from AC.
As someone else said, I won't ride this as a daily wheel. It's feather-light and just doesn't seem durable - although I've only had it a couple of weeks and used it on one 60+ mile ride. I'll use it for specific race situations - like long hills. I'll continue to use a traditional wheel like the OP for the rear where durability really counts.
I've searched around and still can't find a better inexpensive front wheel for racing than my Proton. The thing's rugged as all get out and relatively light.