|Veloce VS Centaur/Daytona||singletrackusa|
Feb 7, 2003 10:47 AM
|Anybody know the weight difference of Veloce VS Centaur Daytona group, excluding the hubs? I am building a bike on a budget and trying to save where I can. I've heard the performance is similar between the groups. Any thoughts? Thanks|
|I can't tell you what they are but ...||McAndrus|
Feb 7, 2003 11:17 AM
|I can tell you how to figure them out. On-line bike stores like www.excelsports.com or www.coloradocyclist.com often have component weights listed with the items. Printed catalogs almost always have the weights listed. When I have a question like that, I just open up a catalog and look them up.
As to differences between Veloce and Centaur, well performance is 'similar' I guess (I've used both) but Centaur is superior. Centaur's one of the best buys out there in components, I think. And Centaur would be superior in all aspects, braking power, durability, shifting ease, etc.
Oh, and I had a touring bike for six years that had Veloce on it and the stuff worked just fine. In the end, it's a judgement call but my call would be Centaur.
|have you ridden chrous?||JS Haiku Shop|
Feb 7, 2003 11:25 AM
|i'm riding chrous 10 and will be building up another campy 10 bike within the next 12 months. the difference between centaur and chorus is 200 bucks (for the kit from gvhbikes.com). i'm wondering if the weight/performance/durability difference is also $200. i do love riding the chorus bike, and the future build is a much nicer frame.|
|have you ridden chrous?||atpjunkie|
Feb 7, 2003 11:32 AM
|yes, the ball bearings and quality of Chorus will be better and longer lasting. If you have 1 chorus bike and the new one is 'nicer' keep the same gruppo. that way you can also 'steal' parts from one bike to another in a pinch|
|this is why i'm building another campy 10 bike. thanks! nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Feb 7, 2003 11:55 AM
|Chorus shifts a bit better than Centaur||DY|
Feb 7, 2003 11:47 PM
|I have bike bike with all Chorus and one with a mix of Chorus (BB, Crank and Hubs) and the rest Centaur. The Ergopower shifters are better on the Chorus. Shifts seem a little quicker and more positive with the Chorus.|
|re: Veloce VS Centaur/Daytona||Nater|
Feb 7, 2003 12:48 PM
|I'm building a road bike this spring with a mostly Centaur group with the exception of Chorus Ergos. The reason being is that the Chorus and Record (too much $$$) have bearings in the mechanism rather than bushings and potentially will feel better and last longer. I think that you'd be well served by a Centaur set-up.|
Feb 7, 2003 3:22 PM
|I did a compare when I was building up my Torelli and the difference was 200 grams with the hubs and only 50 without. I ended up going with Centaur with Chorus hubs. However I do run Veloce triple on another bike. I do like the 10speed Centaur and the shifting is slightly smoother although not enough to make any real difference to a recreational rider like myself. As to the bushing vs not on the ergo levers, it may be true that the Chorus will last longer but by then you'll have likely upgraded to another bike, crashed and broke it, or Campy10 will be obsolete! If you keep your groups for 20 years maybe its worth it.|
Feb 7, 2003 3:40 PM
|then click on products. Campy lists the weight of everything they sell. Just add them up. I have a chorus racing-t bike, a centaur double [9-speed] and a veloce triple. I'd be hard pressed to choose a favorite; they're all good in their own way. Pressed, I'd recommend a centaur/chorus mix with hubs, crankset and bottombracket chorus and everything else centaur. I prefer the feel of the centaur ergo; but with this stuff, you can't miss!|
|10 speeds !!!||C-40|
Feb 8, 2003 7:07 AM
|With Centaur you can get 10 speeds. Unless your terrain is really flat, don't miss the opportunity to try it. A 12-25 cassette will allow you to handle just about anything, and you still have the important 16T cog.|
|re: Veloce VS Centaur/Daytona||desmo|
Feb 8, 2003 5:01 PM
|I would go with Centaur 10 regardless as it will let you upgrade to Chorus/Record in the future if you want. If you mix Veloce 9 speed, the rear brake is heavy, and the bottom bracket is an anchor. Also stay away from the Veloce front hub, it uses really cheap cast cones and does not seal well. Any wet miles will make it toast in no time.|
Feb 9, 2003 7:19 AM
|Go with Centaur. The extra cost is worth it to get into 10 speed. That way it will be compatable with Chorus/Record if you want to make some upgrades in the future. I just switched my bike over from Ultegra to a mix of Campy Chorus/Centaur (Chorus shifters, crank and bottom bracket, Centaur everything else) and I love it. Really smooth, really comfortable.|
|re: Veloce VS Centaur/Daytona||bartje|
Feb 9, 2003 3:16 PM
|if you are on a budget : are the extra $$$ worth the few grams ? if not : go for the veloce. If you can afford it aim a bit higher.
I can reassure you : the veloce group is very good. I rode 15000 miles on it without any problems whatsoever.
PS a triple provides all the gears you might need, climbs and flat.