|Tire recommendations? Michelin gets cut up fast...||ParticleMan|
Feb 6, 2003 7:23 AM
|ok..just about 1500km, and my Michelin Pro Race tire has a deep cut on it, making it such a shame to throw it way...but I must. Weather is rainy here, and I use my wheels everyday, for fast rides, commuting and general riding. I loved that tire..and am now using a spare pair of Hutchinson Excel tires on my Record/OPen Pro/DT wheels.
What tires do you guiys recommend, that comes close to the performance and comfort of the Michelins, but with durability and longevity, so that the money spent was worth for at least 3000km>? Any thoughts on Conti 4 season or GP3000? Others? Or shall I get another pair of Pro Race?
|re: Tire recommendations? Michelin gets cut up fast...||rogue_CT1|
Feb 6, 2003 8:26 AM
|I think the Pro Race is mainly for racing. Try the Michelin Axial Carbons. They last forever. I had one flat on the rear tire last fall after about 2400 miles. The front is still going strong at about 2900 miles without a flat. I finally replaced the rear tire just to be safe but I really think I could have got a few more miles out of it. I seem to wear down rear tires due to my added weight (225 lbs) For anyone below 200 lbs I don't see why you can't get 3000+ miles out of them. They perform great considering they are so durable. Save the Pro Race for race day. The great thing about the Axial Carbons is that you can get them for about $30. That's about 100 miles per dollar spent. Not bad at all.|
|Are they as difficult as other Michelins to get on/off? nm||Paul|
Feb 6, 2003 8:47 AM
|Are they as difficult as other Michelins to get on/off? nm||rogue_CT1|
Feb 6, 2003 9:00 AM
|I never had a problem.|
|Axial Carbon on OPs are easy for me. nm||Spunout|
Feb 6, 2003 9:01 AM
|I second the Axial Carbons...||Quack|
Feb 6, 2003 11:08 AM
|They feel almost like the axial pros but last a lot longer and don't cut up as easily. I just wish they would get rid of the gay yellow stripes they're putting on them. I just threw a pair of them away with over 2000 miles on them. I threw them away not because of cuts but because the tread was so thin, every little micro-shard of glass would make it to my tube.
|GP3000 for me...||C-40|
Feb 6, 2003 9:15 AM
|I've had great luck with the GP3000. The rear lasts about 3000 miles and front twice that. Haven't had a flat in over 6000 miles.
That said, if you regularly ride over glass, expect to get cuts in any tire.
|GP3000 for me...||innergel|
Feb 6, 2003 11:50 AM
|I agree with C-40. The GP3000 lasted me 3K miles on the rear, and that includes three months on the trainer. I bought a new pair am now using the old front tire as a rear for the winter on the trainer.
If you poke around ebay some, you can get a good deal. I got mine for $45 for a pair.
|GP3000 for me...Switched from Axial Pro||Inhighgear|
Feb 6, 2003 5:34 PM
|too many cuts.|
|Too many cuts||ParticleMan|
Feb 7, 2003 7:43 AM
|Thats just the thing about Michelins - they get cut easliy compared to other makes..but they sure ride so nice...
anyway, i have narrowed it down to axial carbons, 4 season, gp3000...and heck, i got an orange custom color Pinarello Prince, and yellow or orange belted tires make my day...guess i'll see which of the 3 I can get the best deal on. Though, if you had to pick one- which is it? I value comfort, durability and light weight..
Happy riding all
|Axial Pro Contradiction||peter in NVA|
Feb 8, 2003 1:05 PM
|I've used them on the road for years and love the ride, but like everyone else have been discouraged by the numerous cuts. Last summer during the east coast drought I rode a new pair off road rather than using my cross bike and tires.
Not one cut or slice after many miles of gravel, dirt, rocks and stream crossings...and except for slick mud, have great traction!
Road debris on asphalt seems to be more destructive than natural surfaces.
|I would try pro-races again||BenR|
Feb 8, 2003 6:01 PM
|If you like the smoothness of the pro-races, you will be dissapointed with Conti GP 3000's. GP 3000's are a very nice tire (I still think I prefer their ride on a high-end steel frame), but are generally a stiffer tire.
I've been using pro-races since last June and haven't had a single flat on them and I used to get occassional flats on my Conti's, even with the Kevlar belt underneath. I can't avoid riding through glass on campus and I think the pro races are fairly cut resistant, slightly better than GP3000's and much better than the older Axial Pro's. They won't be as cut resistant as the Axial carbons or Conti trainers, but they are also lighter, smoother, and sticker -certainly worth it in my opinion.
I'm riding a couple different bikes right now so haven't worn out my pro-races, but I think mileage is going to be equal to or slightly longer than GP3000. I'm 168 lbs. plus/minus 5 lbs., have 2500 miles on mine and still going strong. They are also stickier in the wet and have lower rolling resistance. They are 10-20 grams heavier than GP 3000's but I haven't noticed the difference over all the other variables.
Look around a bit on ebay since you can usually find them for $30-35 each, rather than $52 retail. They are certainly worth it for that price. I say give them another try since even the strongest tires can be destroyed with one freak slice.
|I would try pro-races again||ParticleMan|
Feb 9, 2003 6:25 AM
|Hi there...guess ure right...but I dont use Ebay, I'm in Singapore, and tires [and most bike parts] cost less here anyway. I may just use another pair of Pro Race - I really like dthem. However, at the moment, a friend of mine is giving me a pair of Vittoria Open CX to use, so i'll try them out first. I am also considering the Panaracer Stradius Extreme, they seem to be great tires for our roads and fast too. I'll post a report here soon. Thanks!|| |