|Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||slide|
Feb 3, 2003 4:24 AM
|I have a Lemond Buenos Aries right now that has ultegra on it. Having ridden a few bikes with Campy lately I really prefer the ergonomics of the Campy levers. I'm wondering how these two groupos compare to Ultegra. I can easily afford the switch to Centaur (with Chorus levers for the ball bearing movement) but full Chorus would be pushing it. Would I be taking a step down by going with Centaur? Thanks for any oppinions.|
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||Spunout|
Feb 3, 2003 4:30 AM
|I'm a plain old campy fan. Chorus works very well, and most here will say that with Centaur you won't be able to tell the difference.
I thought about Ultegra, but left it behind when considering the maintenance issues, and gearing availability. So, I went full Chorus.
You could go Centaur and put the money into wheels, upgrade to the Chorus Hubs and Brake Calipers.
Feb 3, 2003 4:31 AM
|bet you grew those flowers to match your frame color||colker|
Feb 3, 2003 8:17 AM
|good idea. beautifull bike btw. |
i have daytona. the only upgrade i dream of is : cranks and bb. and i want record! yup, i'm a fashion victim...
Feb 3, 2003 5:04 AM
|if centaur is a step down from ultegra (I think it is), it's a pretty small step. centaur is heavier, but you do get 10 speeds and more durability. I'd go with chorus - definitely a step up. or get a chorus group sans cranks.|
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||Steve Bailey|
Feb 3, 2003 6:35 AM
|I use both and have no preference, except that the Centaur equipped bike has a triple, with he Centaur front brifter providing for a better shift on a triple.
You can, of course, go with Campy brifters and a Wheels Manufacturing cassette so as to keep your R wheel with a Shimano hub.
|Go with Centaur - you'll like it [nm]||Leroy|
Feb 3, 2003 9:14 AM
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||tarwheel|
Feb 3, 2003 11:46 AM
|I've got Ultegra on one bike and Chorus 10 on my other bike. I like both groups, and both have their plusses and minuses. Ergonomically, the Campy shifters fit my hands better and are easier to use. But I like the smooth feel of the Ultegra and the trouble-free chain. In my view, Centaur is right on par with Ultegra in quality, and very close in weight and price. |
Personally, I would keep the Ultegra group and save the money for a new bike down the road, which you could set up with Campy just for the change of pace. For what you would be spending on a new Centaur group and the labor costs, cables, etc., you could buy a new frame. Or you could shop of a decent used frame and set it up with Centaur, or perhaps even find a nice used bike with Centaur/Dayton already on it.
Despite the never-ending debate, there is very little functional difference between equivalent Campy and Shimano groups. It all comes down to personal preferences. Both groups are high quality and I wouldn't mind having Ultegra/Centaur/Chorus/DuraAce/ Record on any bike.
Is there a specific problem with your Ultegra shifters? In my experience, I've seen a lot of shops set up Shimano shifters with a large drop from the top of the handlebars, but Campy shifters seem to set up more readily so they are even with the tops. I prefer the Campy setup in that respect but was able to move my Shimano shifters up and slightly rotate the bar ends downward so that the position of my Ultegra shifters is similar to the Chorus.
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||slide|
Feb 3, 2003 5:48 PM
|I actually work at a shop and will do all the install myself. Plus I'm getting a good deal on all the stuff I need and cables come with the levers.
The only real reason I want to switch is that I like the feel of campy levers better. They are a little wider, and often sit more flush with the top of the bar.
Thanks for the advice, its appreciated.
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||pusher|
Feb 3, 2003 12:36 PM
|Get only the control levers, and with those you must use a Campy rear derailler. Front derailer, I don't know.
There is no where else that you will feal a difference.
Your Ultegra crank may be much stiffer than anything Campy due to the pipe bottom bracket.
The Campy rear hub may sound different, and engagment may be slightly faster/slower.
Don't bother buying any other new components because everything else is cross compatible.
Spend the extra money for the Chorus if it does have ball bearings. I think it also has a carbon boddy.
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||MR_GRUMPY|
Feb 3, 2003 4:53 PM
|Why would you dump a component group, just to change looks? That's not very cost effective. I could see it if you were having major problems with it, but is it really necessary to drop another $1200 into the bike for a Chorus group and wheels? Campy lovers will disagree, but Centaur is a full half-step behind Ultegra. Chorus is a full half-step ahead of Ultegra, and maybe a quarter step behind Dura Ace.
If you are able to remove your Ultegra group yourself and sell it, you might get a few hundred if you are lucky. Used components are always a big question mark, unless you can sell it to someone you know.
You might be better off to sell the entire bike and buy a new Lemond frame and component group.
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||atpjunkie|
Feb 3, 2003 5:18 PM
|Centaur (Old Daytona) is fine. just get the Chorus Shifters if any part you intend to upgrade. I'd say Centaur is nearly on par with Ultegra, not a full half step behind. If you like the feel of Campy great, make the change.|
|re: Ultegra vs. Centaur vs. Chorus||slide|
Feb 3, 2003 5:52 PM
|Did you read the part of my post where I said I wanted to switch because I really liked the ergonomics of the Campy levers better then my Ultegra ones? I never once said anything about looks. After looking into it more and reading other peoples oppinions it looks to me that Centaur is right on par with Ultegra.|
|I noticed that as well.||atpjunkie|
Feb 3, 2003 6:23 PM
|you clearly mentioned your pref. for 'feel' of Campy levers, which is quite a legitimate reason. I prefer the feel, how they sit on the bars, thr immobile brake lever and being able to drop multiple gears (at high speed) from my drops by thumb shifting Good Luck|
|Thanks you guys!||slide|
Feb 3, 2003 6:32 PM
|Thanks for all your oppinions and experiences. I think I have decided to go with Centaur for the frnt and rear ders and the brakes, Chorus for the levers, bb and cranks; and a Wheels Manufacturing cassette to put on the wheels I already have.
I work at a shop now and spent over 5 years as a mechanic at one so there will be no labor costs and I'll be getting a good deal on the parts themselves. If I can get a fair price for my Ultegra stuff, it won't cost me too much to switch to Campy.
Thanks again. We don't stock any Campy stuff and all the guys I work with who ride it are riding older Chorus.