|TTT Prima 199 Bar||bobobo|
Jan 31, 2003 11:23 PM
|Will this bar provide adequate stiffness for a 165 lb spinning type rider during out of the saddle climbs? How does this bar compare to the Deda 215 and deda Newton for stiffness and dependability and ease of mounting ergolevers?|
|Smoothness and weight||Kerry|
Feb 1, 2003 9:27 AM
|Can't answer this question. Most likely you'll have no problems, especially since you're a spinner. However there are some people who are quite rough in their riding style, and they complain about nearly any bar and stem being to flexy.|
|re: TTT Prima 199 Bar||rogue_CT1|
Feb 1, 2003 11:12 AM
|I'm 225 and use the 3T Prima 199 bar and the Zepp stem. I am an out of the saddle power rider and I have no problems with the bar flexing. Even on steep climbs where I am forced to really pull on the bars it isn't even an issue. I don't think you'll have any problems with the bar. By the way, JensonUSA has it on sale for the unbelievable price of $45. I paid about $80 for mine last spring.|
|they are ok||DougSloan|
Feb 1, 2003 11:37 AM
|I have a set; I also have 215's, Kestrel carbon, Easton carbon, among about 5 others. Of all of them, the 199 is the most flexible; however, I've noticed that the stem makes a huge difference in perception of flex, probably more than the handlebars. A good wide stem/bar clamp makes them seem stiffer. A Cinelli Grammo makes them feel like rubber.
|they are ok||bobobo|
Feb 1, 2003 3:21 PM
|What would you recommend a a good wide stem/bar clamp for the 199's?|
|they are ok||DougSloan|
Feb 1, 2003 9:27 PM
|I use an ITM Millenium, but a 4 bolt would be better, like a Ritchey: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.html?SKU=14768|
Feb 1, 2003 9:15 PM
|What do you think of the Kestrel?|
Feb 1, 2003 9:28 PM
|Fantastic bar. Rock solid. Actually weighs in around 220 for a 44 cc. I like the shape.
Feb 2, 2003 5:47 AM
Feb 2, 2003 11:37 AM
|The Kestrel EMS is a great bar, relatively light and IMO much safer than comparable weight alloy bars which have much more flex and susceptability to failure. Like other carbon Kestrel components, the EMS is rock solid, very stiff and dependable IMO. No clue about the EMS SL as its too new, but if it's built by Kestrel it's probably another winner as well and scary light.|
Feb 2, 2003 11:14 PM
|It also carries a scary price tag and it will shatter during a hard crash. I have personal experience to prove it. The bar was totaled. My 3T Prima 199 survived my latest crash (with a doberman) unscathed. By the way, I think the EMS bar weighs 215 grams and costs about $150 -vs-the 3T Prima 199 which weighs 199 grams and costs $45-$69.|
|Its a good bar||pmf1|
Feb 3, 2003 8:38 AM
|I have a 199 on one bike, the older 220 on another. I've found them to be good bars. Plenty stiff and durable.|
|My favorite bar||MGS|
Feb 3, 2003 4:52 PM
|Figure it was time to chime in.
I've ridden with at least five different bars, looking for the perfect bar for my size seven hands, i.e., short drop, small reach.
The Prima 199 beats the pants off the Salsa Poco and any other bar.
Go for it.