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Look style pedal vs. SPD style(13 posts)

Look style pedal vs. SPD stylefzrrider
Jan 29, 2003 11:45 AM
What are the advantages to a Look type pedal over mtb type pedals? I know the pros all use Looks, i'm sure its not because of sponsorships.
thanks
re: Look style pedal vs. SPD stylebrider
Jan 29, 2003 12:38 PM
The problem with the smaller SPD type pedals was the sizze of the contact area between the pedal and the shoe. As small as it is, it tends to cause "hot spots" on the feet. I've used both (first generation Looks and the "touring" SPDs), and I really preferred the SPDs, myself. Still use 'em in fact. Raced for years on them. It really boils down to personal preference. As I'm not a pro (never was, and it's probably a bit late to become one now), I can't really give you any first-hand pro perspective.
re: Look style pedal vs. SPD styletao
Jan 29, 2003 1:01 PM
Are you sure all the pros use Looks? Last time I Looked a large percentage, not a majority but maybe 35% use Times.

Both have a larger contact area and put the sole closer to the spindle compared with a mtb spd system, though Times are slightly better than Looks in both these areas. The float is also better in both. The disadvantages for both are less cornering clearance and difficulty in walking. Some claim Times are difficult to engage but I think each system has a learning curve and all have the same general usability.
re: Look style pedal vs. SPD styleatpjunkie
Jan 29, 2003 1:41 PM
yes, just helps eliminate hot spots. all are now (especially new Times) making sole even closer to the axle. Speedplay is only big player in small pedal road use. Many pro's using Times, some on Campy and Shimano as well but methinks most of those are more to sponsorship (except the new D/A which is supposed to be quite nice)
re: Look style pedal vs. SPD stylefzrrider
Jan 29, 2003 2:36 PM
yeah, not EVERY pro uses Looks, I used Look as a general term for all the road based/large cleat type systems. I'm trying to convince my mt biking buddies that mtb type cleats are not the way to go on the road. I was wondering if I should go from my speedplays to Look/Time type pedals. Doesn't sound like there is enough difference to warrant the change. Its all personal preference. thanks for the input.
it's more the shoesatpjunkie
Jan 29, 2003 2:53 PM
road shoes are much stiffer and get better power transfer to the pedal regardless of pedal type.Time has a pedal/cleat that are compatible for road and MTB. Time has a road ATAC people use mostly for touring. You can use your MTB atac cleats on this The bigger platform does help. If you ride a smallish MTB SPD after a couple hours most people feel a hot spot. Speedplays road pedal has a bigger attachment platform to distribute energy and reduce the hot spot.
re: Look style pedal vs. SPD styleThe Human G-Nome
Jan 29, 2003 3:49 PM
well, i just recently went from road SPDs to Look 396. immediately, i had some left knee discomfort which was disconcerting, but i realized that the Look platform actually meant i had to raise the seat some. the Looks felt more stable compared to the SPDs and i really noticed a difference when getting out of the saddle and really stomping. on the SPDs i will feel the sensation of a slight separation from the pedals on the upswing, but with Look i do not get that feeling at all. that would seems to translate into losing less transfer of energy. whether this is true or not, i'm not sure, but i've already began the process of changing my other bikes to Looks.
re: Look style pedal vs. SPD styleVikingbiker7
Jan 30, 2003 5:13 AM
I went from Speedplay to Look. But after the learning curve time, I like the Looks. No hot spots, no worry about dirt in the cleat, and much cheaper cleats. But they do have the Look squeak. I haven't heard if the new A series has the squeak or not.
speedplayFez
Jan 29, 2003 7:56 PM
Speedplay isn't exactly a small pedal system. The part that's on the bike is sleek and small - a weight weenies' dream.

But the cleat is huge and goes pretty much around the pedal. Walking in those can be fun. Nevertheless, Speedplays do have a fair size contact area.
Why did Shimano make SPD?The Singletrackroadie
Jan 30, 2003 10:10 AM
The reason thay made SPD is because they love hurting cyclists. I ride MTB and I found that the SPD design is to small and the pedals axle is too far from the crankarm. (mud is atrackted to SPD as well and you can't free your foot)Hurts your feet like the other guys said. Go for Time, it feel more stable and it float has a more forgiveness. Like the atpjunkie said the shoes make a really big differance. MTB shoes is wider and bit more "flexy". Carbon will cure that problem on your roadshoes eg. DMT Ultimax.
speedplayatpjunkie
Jan 30, 2003 11:12 AM
was my point. that their cleat for road is bigger than their MTB to compensate for small platform of their design.
re: Look style pedal vs. SPD styleThe Human G-Nome
Jan 31, 2003 12:02 AM
on a sidenote, if you get the Kool cleat protectors to walk in, you've far outperformed anything an SPD can do. those things are invaluable. now i can walk up and down my slick marble stairs with my bike without worrying about falling on my arse.
no advantageJohnG
Feb 2, 2003 4:22 PM
looks suck, imho

Use what you like and don't follow anyones advice here.

JohnG