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Pavan and VeloceBelliss
Jan 28, 2003 4:09 PM
Anyone have past experience using Pavan bike frames? As well, I am debating on whether to get a Shimano 105 component system versus the comparable in the veloce brand. Any views or experiences are greatly appreciated. I have had trouble finding information on Pavan bicycles ( but I ran into a shop run by an old italian man who custom makes bicycles, most of which are pavan. I am debating on whether or not to take the deal.

54 cm Pavan (aluminum fame) - 2002 model
Shimano or Veloce, whatever I want.

All brand new for $1150. What do you guys think. Its my first road bike as I am just entering this sport.

One more thing. What are the good trainers. I have heard a lot about 1upusa but any recommendations? Have you heard anything about Veloce?

Thanks guys.
re: Pavan and VeloceKeeponTrekkin
Jan 29, 2003 12:34 PM
Veloce is a mid-level Campy gruppo (as you probably know). I'm more familiar with Shimano. If it's reasonably comparable to 105, it is likely to be reliable under most conditions and quite satisfactory (if not good to excellent).

I don't know Pavan and its website is down right now. I think the Italian mfr's are less conscious of "model year" but I would want to know if the 2003 is "improved", etc. just to confirm I wasn't missing out on the one upgrade that would mean a lot to me (but, being practical, I'd probably like the better deal on the '02).

It's hard to get all 105 at this price level on a new US made bike. It sounds like this deal is giving you a lot for the money whether you choose Campy or Shimano.

If you haven't heard it yet, let me be the first to tell you how important "Fit" is and to say the best way to assess fit is to ride it. It's like a shoe, a good deal isn't good if it doesn't fit. You'll spend a lot of time on the bike after you own it so take a lot of time before you buy it. It doesn't take too much time to find ads in the classified on this site with "bought the wrong size, must sell at a loss", etc. to learn the consequence of this error.

All I can tell you about trainers is that they're boring.

Welcome to the sport. Good luck.

re: Pavan and VeloceBelliss
Jan 31, 2003 7:28 AM
Thanks for the advice, in regards to the fit, the shop owner recommended the size to me. I am going to get a second opinion this afternoon. As for trainers, they can't be any boring then spending 12 hours a week on a rowing machine. I did that for 4 years. I've had enough.

re: Pavan and Veloce24qq6vj
Jan 29, 2003 11:51 PM
I do not know the bike, But regarding the groupset- the answer is Veloce (my opinion). I have a very good experience with Veloce and Campy. Adjustment is almost not needed, the component very precise and reliable. Personally I'm sorry that i did not buy Centuar (the higher stage of Campy). I think the difference is worth the money.
Good luck with any decision.
re: Pavan and VeloceBelliss
Jan 31, 2003 7:34 AM
Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. I am going to try it if i go for the deal.