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Open Pro/DA spoking help(7 posts)

Open Pro/DA spoking helptrout_bum
Jan 22, 2003 10:47 AM
Help-Spoke confusion!-trying to decide which wheelset to order. Sorry posted a similar question earlier but I'm ready to order now and need some help.
REAR 32H 14/15 DS, Revolutions NDS all 3X
FRONT 32H Revolutions 2X
Brass Nipples
OR
REAR 32H all 14/15 3X
FRONT 28H 14/15 2X.
Brass Nipples
I weigh 161 plan to race and train on these-circuit style road races and crits CAT 4 so I want that delicate balance of lightness vs. durability. How much of a weight savings am I looking at by using Revos? I am concerned about Revos being too flexy and delicate-I think I definitely don't want to go 28H with these. I see Excel has a pre-built set called Cirrus which is essentially the first build I have listed but with alloy nipples. I know brass nipples are better in the long run but how much heavier are they?
Thanks for your help-I promise I am ordering these tonight and won't ask again!
re: Open Pro/DA spoking helpcurlybike
Jan 22, 2003 12:15 PM
You save about 40g. per wheel for the revolutions and 20 g. for the alloy nipples. If you use revos for half the wheel 20g.
re: Open Pro/DA spoking helpNoahD
Jan 22, 2003 6:28 PM
The alloy nipples and revolution spokes are lighter, and will decrease your rotating mass, but you will lose out in durablity, ease of truing, and stiffness. As a former shop mechanic and racer, I always recommend durability over weight, espcecially when the weight savings are so minimal, as in this case. Heavier wheels tend to handle and descend better, and though they accelerate slower, they carry momentum better.
re: Open Pro/DA spoking helpcroll-duraace
Jan 22, 2003 9:30 PM
i will agre certainly with noah on this subject....I race cat. 2, specializing in crits...my wheels of choice are non other then Dura-ace/ open pro's...32 h f and r ... straight 15 g, some of the major problems running 18 g type spokes is the wind-up MOST wheel builders get when tensioning, eventually they unwind, lose tension , and your wheel goes untrue.....so if you do go revo...have a professional build them OR build 14 or 15 gauge spokes, if your worried about rotational weight, throw on a pair of conti supersonics or Vittoria super speed.

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Thanks for the helptrout_bum
Jan 23, 2003 7:34 AM
I went the durability route-Colorado Cyclist built -R 32H 14/15 3X, F 28H 14/15 2X brass nipples all around . The 28H F was a compromise to satisfy my inner weight weenie.
we all are weight weenies !!croll-duraace
Jan 23, 2003 9:11 AM
Deep down ALL roadies are weight weenies !!!! Keep us posted on how well built the wheels are ..take care ,Chad
re: Open Pro/DA spoking helpTrek Racer X
Jan 23, 2003 12:06 AM
I race a set of Dura Ace on blue annodised Open Pro set up:

f: 28h radial laced, with DT revolutions. 15g
r: 32h Drive side 2x, non drive radial laced w/ DT revolutions, 15 g.
(black spokes, with Blue annodised Alloy spoke nipples.

I weigh 147 lbs, and use these as my training/ race wheels. I had them tensioned high, and built well, and they're pretty light, and durable so far, and look cool too.

Just a light weight option.

Just my 2 cents