|Best Value in components||Mutual|
Dec 16, 2002 10:17 AM
|I am building up a new bike and I thought I would ask about what you guys thought was the best value in high end components. Not really concerned with which grouppo-that could be a very long thread, but like bars, headset, stem, seatpost, pedals etc(everything but the group).
Dec 16, 2002 10:32 AM
|1. what are you doing to do with this bike?
2. how much do you want to spend?
3. what do you have now, and are you happy with it?
My estimate is that Ultregra is the "best value" for a group; not the best, but a good bang for the buck.
For other things, Ritchey isn't bad a bad value.
To me, the best value is the one that I won't want to replace 2 months from now.
Dec 16, 2002 11:40 AM
|Race oriented(Cat 2, eventually Belgium ?), reliability number one, weight second, price third. Value = reliability + weight/ price(?). For example, I think some of the magnesium 200+ stems are nice, but for the amount of money they are not that great of a value compared to something like an ITM Millennium stem.
|that changes things||DougSloan|
Dec 16, 2002 11:49 AM
|I think we are talking about a different category of "value," then.
Take a look at the Ritchey WCS line for value.
Better yet, get sponsors!
|Here's my favs:||WHIZZard|
Dec 16, 2002 11:51 AM
|Best Component Values (IMHO)
Chris King headsets - little more $ but well worth it
Ritchey WCS stem - stiff and reliable and light
Ritchey or Deda bars (I like the 215's) don't like Ritchey w\ Campy
Thomson seatpost - very adjustable and reliable
Time Impact or Look pedals, just got the Impacts and really like them.
You didn't ask for gruppo help, but (if you ride "a lot") buy Dura Ace or Chorus\Record mix and save yourself some later upgrade-itis expense.
Dec 16, 2002 2:00 PM
Headset - Chris King
Seatpost - Thompson
Everything else - get what you want
|Chris King headset, I don't understand,||TJeanloz|
Dec 16, 2002 2:50 PM
|Of all of the things that people wear out on bikes, the headset is right about at the bottom of the pile. A headset wearing out in the normal course of riding is a rare event indeed. I can't think of a single headset we've replaced at the shop that wasn't the direct result of some kind of abuse.
A bad headset will last 3 years, if you abuse it. A good quality Ritchey or Shimano will last indefinitely. A top quality Campy Chorus or Record will also go like the energizer bunny. And a Record headset costs HALF of what a King does. Be a headset snob if you want, but a good value? In threaded, the Shimano Ultegra can't be beat; threadless, Campy Chorus or top-shelf Ritchey win the value contest.
|Just bought a Chorus HS||Nessism|
Dec 16, 2002 3:55 PM
|While I love my King headset, I decided to go with a Chorus model on my latest rig. Texascyclesport.com has them for $37 bucks which sounded pretty good to me.
As far as seatposts go, it's hard to go wrong with American Classic. About 1/2 the cost of a Thompson's and plenty rugged.
PS: I just ordered a TiSport Ti frame for $629 which is a good value in my book. I'll post some photos when it comes in.
|Hey Ed....||pa rider|
Dec 17, 2002 7:32 AM
|Thought I give you some fyi on your new post. We use to break a lot of the american classic seat post on our mountain bikes. Just keep a good eye on the post. I didn't have any problems with my old one from two years ago.
My LBS told me to keep an eye on mine, but it was a 31.6 post, not the 27.2 we use to break. Richey post broke a lot up by the seat bolt. I see a lot of mtb guys break the low end post models.
Just a FYI, no debate.
|Hey Ed....||pa rider|
Dec 17, 2002 7:43 AM
|Forgot to mention the american seatpost was for my mtb where I weigh over 180 pounds. Plus I'm know to break a few parts. Maybe that's why the lbs told me to keep an eye on the post.
Dec 18, 2002 1:01 PM
Where are TiSport frames made at? do they have a website?
Dec 18, 2002 9:34 PM
|They are a US company based in Washington. Started out as a division of Sandvic Titanium - large Ti production operation. At some point TST/TiSport was spun off into its own company. They produce private label frames sold by many different companies under their own brand. First rate quality in my opinion although they don't get the love of most other Ti producers. At any rate, they sell surplus frames for very reasonable prices on their web site. Check the link below for more information.
|I ruined a headset in 2 months||DougSloan|
Dec 16, 2002 8:28 PM
|In one of my first races after returning to road biking, the road crossed an old bridge with huge bumps in the asphalt. I hit one hard enough to bend my handlebars down, and it whacked my stock Diacompe (I think, 1999 Bianchi Alloro); the headset had a huge pit in it, and was unrideable.
Since then, nothing but King and Campy Record. But then, I over do things. The Record headsets have taken some huge abuse, and I think they look much better than the King, too. In fact, I installed one today in my Bianchi steel bike, and I think it looks great with the Record components and classic quill stem.
|Yeah but its got <i>colors</i> all my lousy Record came in was||SnowBlind|
Dec 17, 2002 3:09 PM
|silver or black. I feel so cheated.|
|Chris King headset, I don't understand,||JFST|
Dec 20, 2002 12:55 PM
|It depends on your point of view. The King HS is one of, if not the most expensive headset out there but the price difference over a decent quality HS is still not that drastic to overlook it. The 30 or 40 extra dollars a CK might cost will get you a headset that is nearly indestructible, will need virtually no maintenance during its life, will outlast most of your bikes, and in 5 years it will probably still be running as good as it did the day you bought it. In case that wasnt good enough they have a 10 year warranty just in case. Its arguably the best buy you can make in the long run.|
|CK not a "value" component||Kerry|
Dec 17, 2002 5:15 PM
|CK makes great head sets, but if you want maximum value in a HS, get Stronglight. Roller bearings will last forever at about $40 for the set.|
|CK not a "value" component||Crankist|
Dec 18, 2002 6:02 AM
|I think you posted this info some time back. I'm happy to see it again - I forgot the brand name. Anyway, in my (significant) online shopping adventures I've yet to notice Stronglight. Where the heck? And do they come in pastels?:)
Dec 18, 2002 4:41 PM
|Gee, how hard did you look? Try Excel.|
|re: Best Value in components||DINOSAUR|
Dec 17, 2002 8:39 AM
|Deda Magic bars
Thomson seat post
any "lightly used" saddle for sale on ebay
Cinelli black cork bar tape
Ritchey also makes good tires (made by Victoria)
Velox rim tape
|My pick of Best Value in components||Morgan|
Dec 18, 2002 4:04 PM
|Stem: Richie WCS (light and great price)
Headset: Running Cane Creek intergrated on Rd bike, but like Record and King(on MTB).
Fork: LOOK HSC3
Tape: Cinelli black cork
Pedals: New 2003 Dura Ace or LOOK
Seat Post: Campy Record or Easton Carbon
Wheel set: Dave Speed Dreams or Mavic K's
Bars: Easton Carbon or Deda
Seat: Terry Ti Fly
Cages: Blackburn 35 gram models
|centaur and ritchey wcs [nm]||Leroy|
Dec 19, 2002 5:27 AM