Oct 9, 2002 5:59 PM
|Anyone have experience with Orbea frames made in Spain? Ridden by Euskaltel. Some nice-looking aluminum frames at orbea-usa.com, but I've never heard of them.|
|re: Orbea frames||gray8110|
Oct 9, 2002 9:41 PM
|People who have them love them.. there are a ton of frames like that made with Columbus Starship or XL-8R tubing with Columbus Muscle Stays and Fork that look almost exactly the same.. I would assume there is some geometry difference between them.. I don't see it myself... but Abici, Orbea, Cyfac, Cinelli the list goes on.. there are ton of builders out there that make quality bikes like that with stock columbus parts.. I can't tell the difference minus the paint job.. Of course I've never had the luxury of riding one.
Take a look yourself and compare:
|re: Orbea frames||McAndrus|
Oct 10, 2002 3:52 AM
|I know two guys who have them: both are experienced racers and one is a bike shop guy. They both love their Orbeas.|
|Any real info on tube difference? T6? T7? Comfort? Warranty? NM||Spunout|
Oct 10, 2002 4:27 AM
Oct 10, 2002 9:28 AM
|I believe that Orbea is the world's largest user of Columbus tubing. I think they have been building bikes for decades and decades. They build a frame with virtually every type tubing Columbus makes, aluminum and steel, and in my opinion Columbus makes the best bicycle tubing in the world. All have lifetime warrantees. 6000 series aluminum tubing, as in the Starship, offers a more lively resiliant ride than the 7000 series. But, 6000 tubing is more expensive and requires a heat bath to restore the tubing's properties after wleding which further increases the price. 7000 series tubing is "air cooled" which makes it much cheaper to produce a frame, no heat bath required, but some ot the resiliance is sacrificed and therefore the ride quality suffers. The ride of the Orbea Starship is wonderful. Lively, not harsh, and oh so light. The geomerty perfectly compliments the tubing. The paint job is really cool too. Five layers of paint, two of which are clear and the logo is painted on, not a sticker or decal. At about $1,100.00 the Starship is a steal.|
|Not much I can tell you, sorry.||McAndrus|
Oct 10, 2002 9:30 AM
|One of them is the model used by Euskatel in the 2001 TdF and the other is a model slightly less expensive but still a very good frame.
I don't know much about the particulars. The conversation is usually "how do you like your Orbea?" and the answer is "it's great, I love it" all while we're doing 19mph and the wind is whistling in my ears.