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new chain;; remove the wax????(6 posts)

new chain;; remove the wax????Gall
Sep 21, 2002 7:16 AM
hello,

put a new chain on.. so whats the best thing? remove the factory wax and lube or keep it on until it wears off on its own?

thanks!
re: I remove the grease...Akirasho
Sep 21, 2002 10:30 AM
... generally, I use some form of degreaser (Dawn, WD 40, Goo Gone) then clean and lube as usual...

The grease is generally used to protect the product that might be warehoused for years before use... and since grease (especially on the sideplates of a chain) usually attracts dirt, I'd remove it.

We abide.

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"grease" = cosmoline normally, with poor lube quality-clean it!IAmtnbikr
Sep 21, 2002 10:33 AM
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From box to bikeNessism
Sep 21, 2002 6:40 PM
Just slap it on a go. Just think about the millions of bikes built up over the years using the factory lube. The chain will run super quiet smooth. Why mess around?

Ed
I dopmf1
Sep 23, 2002 11:33 AM
It just attracts dirt, gets gunked up and is then hard to clean off later. Soaking the chain in mineral spirits (or gas) before you install it will save you a lot of time in the long run.

To all those who claim you should keep it on -- do you use grease as a chain lube?

To those who personally know exectutives at Shimano Corp who tell you it should be left on -- do you think they'd tell you to take it off? Its put on there for long term storage much as it is with other steel objects such as military rifles.
leave it on...Jofa
Sep 23, 2002 2:57 PM
..but wipe it from the outside of the chain with a rag. It is the ideal lubricant for the application, but can only be properly applied by total immersion, which clearly cannot easily be done out of the factory.

The vast majority of chains are destined for OEM use, and suppliers demand that the chains are received 'ready to go'. The grease is not cosmolene, but like any grease has the advantage that it will prevent surface rust.

The mostly useless lubricants sold by bicyling specialists and much loved by cyclists are testimony to the fact that bicycle chain lubricant is not critical, hence any barmy ideas about it are not weeded out by obvious misfunction (wax?!). Bike chains run very slowly and will tolerate any mistreatment, running and shifting quite happily completely dry, or lubricated with water (as when you ride for extended periods in rain). Long-term wear is the only concern, and as this is difficult to reliably assess, taking many months, the most popular lubricants are those which keep the chain looking attractive, and can be applied whilst throwing salt over your shoulder.

Chains used in industry, cars, motorcycles and chainsaws, run much faster and are subject to far higher stresses, and must be lubricated properly or they will self-destruct. They typically use proper heavy oil or grease preparations which will not migrate out of the chain bearings immediately, like most thin 'bicycle' lubes. Any of these would be vastly better for your chain's longevity, and many are similar to (though necessarily thinner than) the original stuff.

Oiling a dirty chain however is a perfect way to make a grinding paste inside it. When your chain needs cleaning, the only way to do so is to remove it and agitate it in solvent. Any other methods are superficial. When it is clean and dry, refit it and apply a proper oil liberally, then wipe its surface fully with a rag.

Jofa