|ITM The Stem||Iwannapodiumgirl|
Sep 2, 2002 3:32 PM
|Hey guys and gals, mums and daddys,
Is anyone out there riding with one of these stems? They seem pretty trick - 95g, magnesium. Flex? Strength? Catestrophic failures?
Also thinking of getting ITM The Bar - same questions?
Thanks in advance
|re: ITM The Stem||tirider|
Sep 2, 2002 10:03 PM
|I've got the ITM The Bar and love it. It's light and seems to have a bit less reach and drop than the Deda 215 I was using prior, which is what I was looking for. I don't use The Stem however, I use the Millennium which is quite stiff. I was a bit hesitant to try the magnesium stem after reading that any chips in the coating can cause corrosion (I'm not sure if that is the correct metallurgical term ) and possible failure. I'm sure that that with due diligence there's no need for concern, but ever since my mountainbiking days I tend to worry less about losing weight in my stems. I have a thing about my teeth and face.|
|re: ITM The Stem||TJeanloz|
Sep 3, 2002 4:09 AM
|I was the first on my block to get The Stem, and it's weight is accurate- mine's 93g in a 120. I find it just as stiff as the ITM Millenium, if not stiffer. No catestrophic failures that I'm aware of- but I would recommend being VERY careful. I always use a torque wrench on the bolts- and the recommended torque doesn't seem very tight at all, but it does the job.
As for The Bar, I found that other handlebars out there provided the same or better weight and were cheaper. I don't think there's anything particularly special about it, and if I were hesitant to get a carbon bar (which I am not) I would go with a TTT Prima 199 instead of The Bar.
|I forgot to mention,||TJeanloz|
Sep 3, 2002 4:14 AM
|The Stem is probably the single most expensive part on my whole bike- it was something like $200 - at wholesale. I shudder to think what retailers must be charging for it. It's a nice stem, but I have a hard time justifying the money on it. All things considered, I don't think I'd pay $200 for it again when there are stems that are 95% as good for less than half the price.|
|Excel sells it new for $199||ColnagoFE|
Sep 3, 2002 7:25 AM
|Maybe it cost more when it first came out? Sounds like you paid close to full price.|
|Excel sells it new for $199||TJeanloz|
Sep 3, 2002 9:34 AM
|I got mine right away after it came out- I actually went straight from the ITM booth to the QBP booth at Interbike to place my order after I saw it. If I recall correctly, it was $185 (wholesale) and remained that high for at least a year. Excel, however, has a habit of importing things directly from Italy and selling them with practically no margin; their thinking is probably: "$20 is more than we make on most stems, so it's enough for this one".|
|re: ITM The Stem||esbike|
Sep 4, 2002 9:18 PM
|I have one that I bought new on ebay for $175. I've been very happy with and have had zero problems. I even took it on a trip to Europe. I think it is much more durable than was initially reported. Bicycling magazine had a very negative review of it, saying how you would have to throw it away if scratched. I wrote ITM about this and they said it has a 3 layer anticorrosive on it and if *deeply* scratched, you would have to treat the scratch or it could slowy corrode. It is also easy to put on. I did use a torque wrench and found that it felt tight below the recommended max torque and so I don't think I got anywhere near stripping it. Bottom line: cool part if you handle it a little carefully. If you are really rough on your parts, it is probably better to get something like the ritchey wcs.|
|Thanks for the comments...||Iwannapodiumgirl|
Sep 4, 2002 9:39 PM
|I think I will get the Millenium combo. Whilst I am gentle on my components, I want to be able to sleep at night knowing my stem will more likely than not hold up next ride.