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Can't afford Chorus, so...(10 posts)

Can't afford Chorus, so...DeRanger
Aug 24, 2002 11:23 AM
...I have to give some thought to Mirage or possibly Daytona for my new Pinnarello. Looking for feedback on each group.

I'm a clyde (6'3", 215#) so I'm kinda hard on components. Not a racer at all, but I'd like to be able to hang with the big dogs on a century fun ride. I'll be starting a master's degree program and my wife and I plan to start trying to get pregnant next summer, so money will be an issue for some time to come, hence cost is a very real factor as well.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for helping out a newbie.

DeR
You won't be disappointedKerry
Aug 24, 2002 12:36 PM
The performance of these lower groups is just find. Accept it as a gift of the competitive market place. Don't obsess over what you wished you had. 10 years ago, the top pros in the world would have killed for the performance that these groups can deliver. Sure, the parts aren't as light, the finish is not as fine, and the durability is not as great, but so few people are limited by any of this that is is not an issue. Get the bike, ride the bike, maintain the bike. When your finances improve and your lust remains unslaked, then you can consider the higher components. As with anything, the first increment of cost buys the biggest increment of performance.
veloce and centaur.colker
Aug 24, 2002 2:26 PM
i have a veloce headset on my bike (old steel pinarello). i've been searching excuses to swap it for chorus but the thing is beautifull and it's going strong. it came with the frame, which i bought used. everything else is daytona.
daytona/ centaur is wonderfull stuff. so is veloce. campy has a reputation of lasting and then lasting some more.
veloce has heavier hubs than daytona. you could mix and match on your build and never think of upgrading anything ever.
re: Can't afford Chorus, so...gamara
Aug 24, 2002 3:02 PM
Campy makes some wonderful stuff. If price is a concern I would get your lbs to outfit it with Mirage and have them swap the ergos for Veloce. The ergo levers have a finer action than mirage, are alloy vs. resin(plastic). However if you have the dough, than Daytona will you get you the most bang for the buck in terms of performance, reliability, durability with respect to the top tier groups.

Another decision going by your choices, is whether 9 or 10 speeds? Veloce and Mirage are 9 speed only with respect to the shifters, while Daytona/Centaur is 10spd. Whether you need 10 or 9 speeds is another story (past threads) but 10 speed is here to stay and seems to be the future.
I have Chorus and CentaurDY
Aug 24, 2002 8:46 PM
I have Chorus on one bike and Centaur on another. I think you'll find Centaur a great bargin. There are many places on the net where you can pick up a groupo for the $500 range. www.wisecyclebuys.com or www.abicibikes.com. From my experience, I like the bottom bracket better on the Chorus and I think that that Ergo shifters are a bit more precise with the Chorus. After a while on the Centaur I get used to the difference in feel quickly. The Centaur is a really nice group. Also the Rear Der. of the Centaur can actually take a wider range of gears than the Chorus in case that is an issue. PS. I didn't buy the Campy 10 speed chain, I bought the Wipperman. I'm happy with it so far. Good luck.
One more vote for Daytona...I love my Daytona stuff. nmLeisure
Aug 25, 2002 2:36 AM
if I were putting a budget bike together, I'd get Daytona tooweiwentg
Aug 25, 2002 4:09 AM
in fact, I've got Daytona 9-speed going on the cross bike, less cranks, less brakes, less cassette - those 3 are Shimano. hopefully there will be no culture clashes.
So now your getting a cross bike, eh?Leisure
Aug 25, 2002 4:19 AM
What have you found out about the shifting quality you can expect when mixing and matching like that? I figure the cranks will be just fine since the Campy lets you trim, but the rear? (Guess if it's just the cassette, you can switch it to Campy later as time permits.)
do Daytona if you can afford it (nm)ColnagoFE
Aug 26, 2002 6:56 AM
Thanks, all.DeRanger
Aug 26, 2002 7:36 AM
I'm going to see if I can swing the Daytona/Centaur (great links, gamara!) and a set of Cosmos, and go from there.

Thanks again!

DeR/Mike