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Chris King or Phil Wood hubs?(7 posts)

Chris King or Phil Wood hubs?Skeeter
Aug 24, 2002 4:07 AM
I am building a recumbent for touring and want some nice high end sealed bearing hubs. The builder of the bike likes Phil Wood hubs but they seemed HEAVY. I have had experience with Chris Kings on my mountain bikes so I am familiar with the sound, and for me, durability.
So what are your experiences with these hubs? Yes I have read the reviews here, on MTBR, and a few bent sites. Just trying to gather as much info as possible.
I am 230 lbs and the bike will eventually have panniers and gear to boot. Are the CK's as durable? They seem lighter but I don't want to sacrifice durability for weight savings.
re: Chris King or Phil Wood hubs?curlybike
Aug 24, 2002 6:22 AM
Go with the Phil as they seem to have more durable flanges in the hubs. Recumbents seem to eat more wheels than standard bike, since the rider cannot unload the wheels over trouble. Therefore you may be using those hubs for several rebuilds and they will hold up much longer, since the flanges won't get as cut up by the spoke elbows.
Also the Phils require no spec. tools to rebuild n/mcurlybike
Aug 24, 2002 6:24 AM
But wait, there's more!gogene
Aug 24, 2002 8:03 AM
Phils are heavy, relatively speaking, but with the overall weight of your loaded bike, the weight difference is very, very small.(mere ounces) Phil hubs are absolutely bulletproof and will outlast everything else on your bike. Tens of thousands of miles on Phil hubs is not at all unusual. Bottom line is: you pay a tiny weight penalty for a HUGE gain in reliability, ease of maintenance and peace of mind.
Aug 24, 2002 9:02 AM
what I was looking for! I knew if I posted this enough places I would get what I wanted. I would get the CK's but you're right about the weight and Phil's durable flanges. Thanks.
Another vote for Philboneman
Aug 24, 2002 10:10 AM
I've used them sincd 1974. I still have my original set, pre-FSA. I had them back to Los Gatos in 1975 to widen the rear axle in 1975 and while they were doing so, I had the bearings replaced. I rode them in Boston for years, everyday to college and work. Rain, cold and snow. Even the Blizzard of 1978. In all, over 60,000 miles without a rebuild until I pretzeled the rear wheel in 1998. I moved to the UK and they've been in storage ever since. I rebuilt them into 4 new sets of wheels during that time.

More recently, I bought on EBay a pair of FSA cassette road hubs. Had them built up by Paul Hewitt in the UK and again, they're on my daily rider.

Yes, they're heavy but as mentioned before, you set 'em and then forget them. Flanges, axles and shells are extremely strong, hence the weight.

Service you ask? The best over my 25+ years of experience. Phil himself is no longer active but it remains family owned and the service, by phone, letter or email is excellent. I had a BB, Campy C Record, sorted out for axle width and taper and expressed mailed to the UK in 2 days. Now if only they made a 10spd Campy compatible cassette body.
Chris is King to me...seyboro
Aug 25, 2002 4:10 AM
I have never used Woods, so, no opinion there. As for the CKs, I built a set with Ambrosio focus, 36/32 holes. Never had a problem. At 250lbs, I put a lot of weight and torque on those boys and they run oh-so-smoothely. After 10,000 miles, just a little hub grease and that was it. Great hubs, surely they can do the job.