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any issues with Columbus Ultra Foco steel?(5 posts)

any issues with Columbus Ultra Foco steel?weiwentg
Aug 22, 2002 6:38 PM
http://www.deanusa.com/index2.html

Dean's claimed weight is 2.6lbs for a 54cm frame, and I ride something like a 48. that's sick-and-twisted light, even lighter than some butted ti frames. any issues? other than the usual steel ones (paint, rust), that is.
Know a couple of guysMcAndrus
Aug 23, 2002 6:14 AM
I know a couple of guys who ride new Deans made from Ultra Foco. The bikes seem too new to me to judge durability. However these are both strong riders who would put a frame under a good deal of stress. They are both very happy with their Deans.

By the way - you're not considering moving away from Giant TCR are you?
I am moving away from the TCR ...weiwentg
Aug 23, 2002 8:44 AM
in twenty years.
seriously now. my intent is to get a titanium bike at some point. as it will last for-bloody-ever (a friend I ride with has a ten year old Merlin that looks like it was made yesterday), I don't consider it an insane purchase. but, weight weenie that I am, I might be willing to consider a holy-crap-light steel bike. like the Dean.
ideally, I'd always keep a TCR in the stable for races. if I were to have just one bike, it'd be titanium (or perhaps steel). after this TCR dies ... I might get a TCR, carbon or not, or I might get a ti or steel bike with stage race geometry.
mainly, I was just drooling over the weight :)
re: any issues with Columbus Ultra Foco steel?thesleeper
Aug 24, 2002 3:18 AM
I ride an U/foco that I have put about 7,000 kms into.
I haven't weighed the frame but I am sure it isn't anywhere near 2.6 lbs - I would guess a min. of 3 lbs at 54.5 cms (and probably more like 3.2 or so).
I have looked a bit and I haven't seen anyone claiming under 3 lbs for U/foco.
The ride is great and haven't had any issues with the frame as yet (touch wood). I am about 78 kilos (lbs?) but I wouldn't say that I punish my equipment.
I could be wrong but if you really want to play the weight game you might look at the top of line Deda steel (EOM 16,5?) which may be a touch lighter.

If you have been riding an aluminium bike you are going to love the ride you get from steel.
re: any issues with Columbus Ultra Foco steel?Nessism
Aug 25, 2002 5:56 PM
Columbus has droped the Foco name for 2002 so now all the Thermacrom road tubes are under the UltraFoco name. The "real" UltraFoco tubes are killer thin with very short butts. I'm not sure it's possible to build a 48 cm frame and still have any butt left after mitering the tubes. Of course, Dean should be able to tell you more. In my opinion, UltraFoco frames are going to be somewhat fragile and require careful handling; not significantly more so than some of the super thin Al frames being produced these days though.

Just remember, there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Ed