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Training wheels for 200lb+(13 posts)

Training wheels for 200lb+Gurn
Aug 12, 2002 9:19 AM
I am 200 lb, 6 ' 2" and currently using open pros w/ ultegra. I would love to upgrade to something a bit more performance oriented for training without loosing durability.

P.S. - I am not really interested in low spoke count wheels.

re: Training wheels for 200lb+frogg
Aug 12, 2002 12:31 PM
Don't get caught up in the need for a boutique wheelset. The fact is that aero/ reduced spoke count wheels aren't a good choice for training. If you want to upgrade, go with a strong, but light wheelset: Chris King or American Classic Hubs with open pro's is a good choice. Also ALEX makes a good road rim that's a little lighter than Open Pro, but Mavic would be my choice. Any way, get 28 or 32 spokes in front and at least 32 in back. I recomend 3 cross lacing as it is better at transfering braking/accerating forces from rim to hub, but you could radial lace the front.
re: Training wheels for 200lb+hairywinston
Aug 12, 2002 12:43 PM
My bike came with Bontrager race lite wheels, and I was quite dubious about them at first. I weigh 124 lbs ( 137 when I bought the bike in June), and I have been logging between 150-250 miles per week. I have had no problems as of yet, and the Trek rep that frequents my LBS said that the posties did alot of their training on them due to their reliablity. They are made using Rolf's technology, but they now have the Bontrager name on them. Hope that helps.
training wheels?phlegm
Aug 12, 2002 12:44 PM
re: Training wheels for 200lb+burdiman
Aug 12, 2002 2:48 PM
I am 225 and have ultegra hubs, open pro (36 hole) and
sapim race spokes. Wheels haven't gone out of true
for 4500 miles.

Had the same hub and rim with DT spokes
and broke 8 spokes the first two months. After I went to
Sapims no problems.
At about 225, I have trouble if I go below 32 spokescory
Aug 12, 2002 3:09 PM
Assuming just decent quality (even Nashbar's generic "built wheels"), I can ride almost any conventional 32-spoke wheel without frequent problems. Every time I've gone below that, or tried to get too fancy, I've started breaking spokes. I'd rather be a few grams heavy than a few spokes short....
Alex 390 rimJaeP
Aug 12, 2002 7:34 PM
Alex rims are a little bit difficult to build up nice and straight. Once in the truing stand you can see the rim has a "waviness" to them. You can even feel it when you lightly run your finger along the rim.

I am 6'2" and 235 lbs. I have over 1000 miles on my Alex built wheels. They are built up on Ultegra hubs, 32 hole (front and rear), 3X, with 14g spokes. I could've built them up with double butted spokes (14/15) but I'm a cheapstake. They're plenty light and durable for me. Throw on some ultralight inner tubes and kevlar beaded tires and you're ready for racin'.

Your current wheelset is the perfect "training wheels". The Open Pros are such a delight to build up and they really are a good, durable, lightweight rim. I would avoid using alloy nipples if one of your main concerns is durability.

BTW, my other wheelset is similar to yours: 32 hole Open Pros on Ultegra hubs, 3X (front and rear) and 14g spokes. I have over 3000 miles on them and they are still true. In other words, they are bomb proof!
OPs + 14x3x32Eager Beagle
Aug 13, 2002 12:18 AM
I have the above on chorus hubs. At 210-220 I have been crossing/commuting on them for over 2 years without even a true. Not even that heavy, and absolutley bomb-proof.
OPs + 14x3x32DINOSAUR
Aug 14, 2002 3:54 PM
That is the set up I'm using. I weigh 200+, had the spokes come loose the first couple of weeks and I tightened up the tension a couple of times and no more problems..
re: Training wheels for 200lb+Landsharkrider
Aug 13, 2002 12:44 PM
I know you said you weren't interested in low spoke count wheels but you might want to take a look at Shimano R535's. They are the everyday, heavy-duty road wheels that they make.

I'm about your weight and have used them for about a year and a half and have beaten the hell out of them on the rough Chicago pavement. Believe it or not, I've had less problem in these going out of true than my set of hand-built D-A/open pro set.

Might be worth a look.
re: Training wheels for 200lb+pat1
Aug 13, 2002 2:08 PM
I'm about 235 and have been riding wheels built by Excel for the past year with zero problems or truing. I ordered Mavic CXP-33's laced 3x with 14g DT's on Chris King hubs. This set is light and bulletproof.
My tally...seyboro
Aug 14, 2002 3:08 AM
...goes as follows:
1.destroyed: dura ace/open pros 36/32
ultegra/cxp33, 32/32
'02 Ksyrium SSC
2.undecided on: Vector pro's
...but probably not as training wheels
3.running strong: King/Ambrosio Focus 36/32, 7000 miles
nukeproof (go figure)/cxp 30 32/32,
1000 miles
I ride at 6'4" and 245lbs.
re: Training wheels for 200lb+bugleboy
Aug 14, 2002 12:10 PM
I'm your size to the "T". I use dura ace w/ open pros for training and Kysriums ssl for racing. I would stick with what you have for training. The extra weight and lack of performance is a training tool. For a durable wheelset though the kysriums are very nice. I only touched once after a "break in" period. Very solid wheels.