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Wipperman chain report(15 posts)

Wipperman chain reporttarwheel
Aug 12, 2002 7:36 AM
My bike has been shifting sloppy and skipping lately, so after trying unsuccessfully to fix the problem by adjusting the rear derailleur, I removed and checked the chain. The Wipperman 10 chain I installed in June was already stretched and worn out -- after only about 1600 miles. I am really disappointed by this and won't be buying any more Wipperman chains, although the superlink works nicely. My original Campy 10 chain lasted 5100 miles before replacing and actually had less stretch after all that mileage than the Wipperman. I laid the two chains side by side, and the Wipperman was stretched about 1 cm longer than the C-10. Unfortunately, I am afraid the Wipperman chain also may have prematurely worn the new C-10 cassette I installed about 1200 miles ago as it is still shifting a little sloppy after installing a new chain (also a Wipperman that I had on hand already.) I keep my chain clean and well lubed with ProLink, so I don't think it's a maintenance issue.
Anyone tried the IRD 10s chain? (nm)ColnagoFE
Aug 12, 2002 8:57 AM
re: Wipperman chain reportnetso
Aug 12, 2002 10:05 AM
I replaced my Shimano DA chain with a Wipperman. I also changed the rear cassette. I have had absolutely no problems. I have over 2000 miles on the chain.
re: Wipperman chain reportMXL02
Aug 12, 2002 11:52 AM
Hey Tarwheel, Doug Sloan reported a similar occurrence...
JohnG "It was the chain + Campy's new connection link SUCKS!" 7/25/02 7:35am

He went back to the Campy chain, but replaced the permalink with the Connex. Says it works great. I am going to try it this week.
Aug 12, 2002 11:59 AM
The Campy with the Wipperman link works fine. I think the Campy chain is smoother and shifts better, and certainly didn't stretch as much. The connection is my only gripe with the Campy.

This true for the 9 speed chain as well?bnlkid
Aug 13, 2002 5:48 AM
I recently installed the 9 speed chain and a new cassette. Are the stretching issues only with the 10 speed chain? I would hope to get more than 1500 miles out of the chain.
Peter at Vecchios recommendsColnagoFE
Aug 13, 2002 6:21 AM
He's sort of a Campy expert. Posts on usenet and runs Vecchios bike shop in Boulder. He recommends the IRD link with the Campy chain.
yup IIPaulCL
Aug 13, 2002 12:04 PM
I've used the Campy chain (OK, I'm on my third one 4000/3500/1500 and going) with several different link "systems"...Craig Superlink, two permalinks and the Wipperman link. By far, the wipperman link is the best. The Permalink breaks - twice. Both of my Craig links would cause a 'hitch' in my drivetrain within a few hundred miles. The wipperman is quiet and smooth. Buy two, put one on your chain, put one in your pocket for a spare. Paul
Approaching 1,000 miles on a WippermanB2
Aug 12, 2002 5:29 PM
I'm approaching 1,000 miles on a new Wipperman chain and cassette. I REALLY don't want to have to replace the cassette prematurely. Any recommendations? Put the campy chain (new) back on with the Conex Link? Continue to ride and monitor?

The cheaper nickel versiongrandemamou
Aug 12, 2002 6:49 PM
lasts longer. I put 2500 miles on one and had no stretch. I changed to a Campy chain with Connex link. I would not hesitate to use the nickel version again.

The SS one sounds pretty disappointing. Thanks for the heads up.
mine was the nickel versiontarwheel
Aug 13, 2002 5:28 AM
The Wipperman nickel chain costs just about as much as the Campy 10 chain, so I don't see the benefit other than the Connex link.
my badgrandemamou
Aug 14, 2002 5:17 AM
I thought you were talking about the SS version. I got about 2500 from mine but I'm a scrawny flatlander. If this is all you get you are better off with the Campy chain and the Connex link.

Most of Campy's designs are well thought out and have great durability. I just don't understand why they cant figure out a way to do a connecting link that does not require a special tool.
what about the "new" Campy chain & link?DaveG
Aug 13, 2002 6:14 PM
I'm new to Campy10 this year. Right now I have a C10 chain with a Permalink. I have not had any problems with it but I've read all the Permalink horror stories here and elsewhere. I did buy a Wipperman link as a backup but have not tried it yet. I wonder if the new HD-L link is an improvment over the old link and if folks here have any comments. When my current chain wears out (I have about 1300 miles) the options I was considering were the new Campy chain and link or the Campy chain with the Wipperman link. I've seen the Vecchio's comment on the IRD link but I've not seen it anywhere. Most shops in my area are Campy-challenged.
prior threadDougSloan
Aug 13, 2002 6:48 PM
can you buy just the Connex link by itself?Old_school_nik
Aug 15, 2002 8:21 AM
Thanks for all your help.

( I am currently running nickel 10 speed Wipper.)

Maybe I will go with Campy and Connex link - but I assume my link will be worn out when the chain wears out???