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Shimano group on Italian frame a fashion no-no???(11 posts)

Shimano group on Italian frame a fashion no-no???Quack
Aug 7, 2002 9:16 AM
I have personally never seen an Italian frame with anything but Campy but I am stuck. I can afford a new Italian frame but not the Record group, and currently have a full DA 7700 group to transfer from my old bike. Thanks in advance.
re: Shimano group on Italian frame a fashion no-no???Texas Spinner
Aug 7, 2002 9:35 AM
This Campy vs Dura-ace decision can eat you alive. If you haven't used the Dura-ace stuff, then ebay the dura-ace stuff and buy a Chorus groupo from

I bought Dura-Ace for my new Vortex, but I look appreciatively at all the campy stuff still. i'd like to try Campy one day.

I think performance wise, it splitting hairs.
Whatever works for you!!!...kapalua
Aug 7, 2002 9:45 AM
BTW, didn't one of the Colnago C40 riding teams in the Tour (Rabobank, Mapei) use Shimano on their rigs??? Don't know...

I initially spec'd a C40 with Dura-Ace, since that's what I've used for the last decade. However, I tried the Campy Record and it won me over. Campy's ability to dump the full cassette in two strokes is simply marvelous! Plus, I really like carbon fiber ;)

Do whatever works for you!

I think all of them did...TJeanloz
Aug 7, 2002 10:26 AM
Colnago sponsored teams quite frequently run Shimano. Both Rabobank and Mapei do.

Some people shudder to put Japan's finest on an Italian frame, but I don't understand it. It's not like the frame cares, or even knows the difference. I think it's just a foolish hang-up Americans have with perceived European superiority.

And, with regards to a Campy downshift, if your thumbs are long enough you can downshift the whole cassette in a single stroke.
mauro mondonico has dura-ace on his mondonico el-os(nm)rufus
Aug 7, 2002 2:20 PM
Kids these days; no respect for tradition...(nm)TJeanloz
Aug 8, 2002 4:33 AM
re: Shimano group on Italian frame a fashion no-no???Iwannapodiumgirl
Aug 7, 2002 2:40 PM
There is nothing that dictates an Italian Gruppo on an Italian frame. If you follow this logic, as some do on this board, you would have to put a French Gruppo on a French frame, and that is not really going to happen, is it?!?! Then there is the wheel issue - same logic applied

I think you should put on the groupset you prefer. I prefer Campag groupsets (I have a Record on my Bianchi),but if I was to get another frame, say for example a Cannondale, I would build it up with Campag still.
re: Shimano group on Italian frame a fashion no-no???DMoore
Aug 7, 2002 9:17 PM
Nope. If you look at the Italian bikes the pros use, I'd say a majority of them use Shimano. Use which ever system you prefer. Anyone who thinks there's a significant difference in quality between the two manufacturers is mistaken. Personal preference and affordability are the only factors that matter. (And this is from a guy who has Record on all 7 bikes, including Record OR on an MTB.)
Stuff the puristsStevieP
Aug 8, 2002 4:56 AM
I have got Ultegra on my Colnago Superissimo so you wont be alone! Personally, I prefer the Ultegra Hoods to Campy as
they give more hand positions and are more comfortable.

Horses for courses.
I agreepmf1
Aug 8, 2002 6:52 AM
I've got DA on my C-40. Only fools think Italian bikes must have Italian components.
lots of pros do it ...tarwheel
Aug 9, 2002 4:35 AM
Personally I prefer Campy over Shimano because the ergo shifters fit my hands better. However, if you are concerned about cost, get Shimano. Campy maintenance costs will eat you alive if you ride a lot -- $30 for a new chain and $80 for a cassette, and those prices are on-line. Figure at least 50% higher if you buy the parts from a LBS. If you get a Record cassette, you'll probably have to take out a loan. To me, the drivetrain is the real "weak link" for Campy -- these parts are way too expensive and wear no better than Shimano. If you can afford it, though, Campy does function better (in my experience anyway).