|Record vs. Chorus - why pay for Record ?||BenH|
Jul 30, 2002 6:08 PM
|I'm sure this topic's been up here before but I couldn't find much on it. I'm not a racer but just an avid rider who's putting together a top notch bike. I've heard folks say that Chorus is 95% of Record. I'm not as interested in looks or prestige but function and if Record really does work noticeably better, I'd pay for it. I'm a 160lb rider and I'll be using Mavic Ksyriums if that makes a difference. I was even considering a Record Triple because I do a ton of hills and don't do them quite as fast as I did in my 20's. The last Campy bike I had was a super record/record bike from the early 80's.
Thanks for the opinions and experience in advance.
|re: Record vs. Chorus - why pay for Record ?||roadcyclist|
Jul 31, 2002 1:24 AM
|I opted for Chorus (Litespeed Classic). Record shaves a little bit of weight and does add a "cool" factor that Chorus doesn't have. As for function - they're the same (imho). I weigh about the same as you, I really don't think that matters except for frame and wheels. By the way, Chorus works ALOT better than the 80's components (again, just mho). Triple is really a personal-needs factor. Do you ride in hilly terrain? Are you just getting older? I outfitted my bike with a double chainring 53/39 and a 13/26 cassette. I find that to be plenty low (I'm 52, I ride mostly flat roads). BUT, I chose the Classic for triple compatability should the need arise.|
|re: Record vs. Chorus - why pay for Record ?||Noam|
Jul 31, 2002 2:16 AM
|get yourelf handmade custom wheels using the Record hubs.|
|re: Record vs. Chorus - why pay for Record ?||MarvinK|
Jul 31, 2002 4:40 AM
|Bleh. If you're going to add something record, add the crank. After all, historically most of the flash has come from the famous Record crank design. If you're talking pure performance, stick with pure chorus and spend the rest on some wheels. Personally, I prefer the traditional look of Chorus to the ugly black carbon stuff in Record.|
|re: Record vs. Chorus - why pay for Record ?||Noam|
Jul 31, 2002 5:34 AM
|If you need a showoff set of wheels be my guest. Otherwise the Record hubs are light and serviceable.|
|so are the Chorus hubs...just no TI pawl and greaseport (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Jul 31, 2002 6:15 AM
|No (or very minimal) functional difference||ColnagoFE|
Jul 31, 2002 6:14 AM
|Buy Record if you gotta have the top of the line, but for the $ Chorus is a better deal. No problem with racing on it either.|
|I beg to differ,||TJeanloz|
Jul 31, 2002 6:20 AM
|The Record front derailleur has adjustable spring tension, which makes all the difference in the world.
It also makes the derailleur ~10g heavier than Chorus.
|when do you ever need to adjust your front der tension? (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Jul 31, 2002 8:59 AM
|Never, hence, I own a Chorus derrailluer||TJeanloz|
Jul 31, 2002 9:39 AM
|But somebody might see the value in the feature. Anyone?|
|when do you ever need to adjust your front der tension? When||SnowBlind|
Jul 31, 2002 1:36 PM
|you need a lift up the mountain by the team car, the mechanic can fiddle with it from the car...|
|Had the same dilemma||mmaggi|
Jul 31, 2002 7:00 AM
|I opted for the Chorus. Why? Couldn't justify the price difference.
I'm not a racer or a weight weenie. Plus, I prefer the chrome look over the carbon look.
Considering that I don't race (therefore weight isn't as much of an issue) I opted for savings.
I haven't regretted it. It works well and I love it.
Jul 31, 2002 7:07 AM
|No good reason. You buy Record just because you want it. If you have to ask the question, you already know the answer.
Jul 31, 2002 7:46 AM
|The definitive answer to the endless "chorus vs record" debate. I couldn't have said it better myself. The original posters' decision was made before he posted.
Personally, I bought the Record. Why?? I could afford it and I wanted it. OK, I wanted those black carbon levers...whoa!!!
|No amateur "needs" Record.||MXL02|
Jul 31, 2002 8:27 AM
|In fact, most don't even need chorus. Its the toy factor. Part of the fun of this sport is the technical gear...Buy what you can afford.|
|If "amateurs" didn't buy them, Campy/Shimano would be out of||Paul|
Jul 31, 2002 10:52 AM
|business. People demand/want quality no matter what the product may be. Showing off your 5,000 bike with the best components is part of the game. Some folks are for show, some are for go, some do both. Yes, we are amateurs, but we run the industry unlike the pros who are sponsored.|
|You are preaching to the choir.||MXL02|
Jul 31, 2002 4:42 PM
|Your argument simply reinforces my point. None of us need them, but we sure as hell buy 'em by the ton...cause of the "toy" factor. Collecting hot bikes is part of the fun, and a hell of a lot less expensive than hot cars. (No one "needs" a 360 Modena, but I sure want one!)
All I am saying is that if one is trying to justify purchasing Record in a practical way, it really cannot be done...no recreational (amateur) rider "needs" Record.
|Agree. But why be practical. If you can afford it, enjoy it! nm||Paul|
Aug 1, 2002 3:33 AM
|re: Record vs. Chorus - why pay for Record ?||mackgoo|
Jul 31, 2002 9:51 AM
|No real difference. Why? Because.|
|re: Record vs. Chorus - why pay for Record ?||tarwheel|
Jul 31, 2002 10:42 AM
|I bought Chorus because it has all the functionality of Record and costs $500 less. I could justify the added cost of Chorus over Ultegra because I think it functions better and will last longer. You could make a strong argument, as well, that a Chorus group would outlast Record because the carbon components are not likely to be as durable as metal. My bike fell over one day and scratched the brake/shifter levers. If my bike had a Record group, this could have very well ruined the carbon levers. However, if you are someone with large amounts of disposable income, Record might very well be worth the added cost to you. In my case, I had a hard enough time convincing my wife that it was worth spending $2,000 on a bicycle. Another $500 might have been a deal-buster.|
|Because we can...||Iwannapodiumgirl|
Jul 31, 2002 3:09 PM
|I had a similar "dilemma" a few weeks ago. I decided to purchase Record, because in a few weeks time (more like days actually) I knew I'd regrest not buying the best of the best.
Sure, I do not need it. Sure, Centuar would have done the same job, if not Veloce or Mirage. However if you are putting togethr a "top notch" bike, go with the "top notch" grouppo.
Ben, you know you want too....
Jul 31, 2002 4:47 PM
|If you ride with less than top of the line equipment, you are always wondering whether it's you or the bike. Once you get the best, you no longer wonder...it's you. That was my excuse for getting Campy Record...if I get dropped, I know it's not the bike.|
Aug 1, 2002 12:55 AM
|Yep, it is just an excuse. If I get dropped, I know it's me and not the bike even though my bike is 15 years old and 22+ lbs, 6spd rear freewheel. If was a hill climb, and EVERYONE else had 15 lb bikes (unlikely), yes, I might have an excuse, but even then I probably wouldn't think it was the bike if I got whupped.
The advantage with my bike (and of wearing an old t-shirt)of course is that I get to sandbag on people with high end bikes... kind of like the dorky looking climbers who climb with long socks in beginner shoes pulling 5.12+'s or V5 bolder problems.
I'm not immune to bike lust though. I'm looking to get a semi-nice 'cross bike to sandbag on the mountain bikers...