|Veloce v. 105||skid jackson|
Jul 26, 2002 12:50 PM
|I've been looking at roadbikes. Of the two finalist, one is all Veloce and the other is all 105. Is there any real difference between these two or are they about the same. Just curious. I'm leaning towards the veloce equipped bike and i'm wondering if the groupo maybe be why i seem to like it better. I realize there are a lot of things that could make one feel better than the other. I'm a former mtb'er looking at going on the road|
|go with your gut||DaveG|
Jul 26, 2002 1:02 PM
|A bike purchase is part objectivity, part emotion. If the bikes are otherwise about equal and you gravitate towards one for some intangible reason, then go for it. Can't go wrong with either group. If the Campy equipped bike is Italian, then its a no-brainer.|
|re: Veloce v. 105||pben|
Jul 26, 2002 1:13 PM
|I come from a race background, though don't anymore. Have been riding a Veloce equipped bike for about 1 1/2 yrs now and it is a fine group. Can't speak to the 105 but am partial to Campy. Have used Campy and Shimano throughout my riding history and just really find Campy to be the best.
For what it's worth. I have a friend who has been in the bicycling industry for over 10 years (from retail to working for various manufacturers). He told me that basically my Veloce is Chorus of about 4/5 years ago.
|how does it feel?||lnin0|
Jul 26, 2002 4:47 PM
|if all else is equal and both bikes fit you nicely then I would say just pick the group that feels best in your hands.
probably minimal difference between the two quality and performance wise but they do each have their own feel.
i like the feel of the campy hoods and the hidden cables better than shimano but to each his own. take both bikes out for a nice long test ride and then buy one and never look back.
|re: Veloce v. 105||BenR|
Jul 26, 2002 4:53 PM
|I've ridden both older and newer veloce and like it a lot. Have also ridden 8 speed 105 parts - they shifted decently but my experience has been that the veloce cogs, chain, and shifters last longer. both groups are good, go with your personal preference.|
|re: Veloce v. 105||skid jackson|
Jul 26, 2002 8:03 PM
|thanks for the replies!!
The campy is on a Bianchi Volce going for $1200 to 1300.
The 105 is on a marin Verona on sale for $999
the shop selling the bianchi is more on the ball, the other shop isn't bad but they aren't into it like the first shop.
I'm leaning toward the bianchi, it seems to feel better, i was wondering if maybe that was a groupo thing. Course i could be a budding italian bike snot and just not know it yet.
would the difference in feel have anything to do with the fact that the marin is a mass produced italian design made in china or taiwan. Where as the bianchi and the groupo are made in italy. Does made in italy really make that much difference.
anyone know if there is a big difference between colombus and reynolds tubing??
|re: Veloce v. 105||DaveG|
Jul 27, 2002 5:31 AM
|I admit to being biased here because I love my Marin (Vicenza), but a major selling point of the Marin is that it is built in a small shop in Italy (Billato Telai) not some factory in Taiwan. At one time some Bianchi's were made in Taiwan; I don't know if that is still true. Whether or not any of that matters relative to performance is another matter. Unfortuneatly, Marin switched to Shimano components a couple of years ago on some models, I presume because they felt buyers would have more name recognition. I don't know much about the Bianchi. If you go with the Bianchi the only sensible thing to do is to stay with the Celeste color! I would not sweat the difference between Columbus, Reynolds and Dedaccio tubes as long as you are comparing comparable quality tubing.|
Jul 29, 2002 7:27 AM
|I have a Veloce and it's a solid bike. Since you say the shop selling the Bianchi is more on the ball than the other shop, and esp. since the feel is better for you on the Veloce, I say go for the Veloce. Just make sure the shop fits you correctly.|| |