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Torque wrenches and other tool questions...(5 posts)

Torque wrenches and other tool questions...Velocipedio
Jul 16, 2002 3:51 PM
I'm about to start a build project and I note that the Campagnolo instructions specify a torque wrench. Do I need one? Do you guys use them? And what's the difference between 3/8" Drive and 1/2" Drive?

Also, for the BB installation [Centaur], the instructions specify a tool #UT-BB100. Is this a specialized Campy tool, or would I be able to find a less expensive generic Park tool, or whatever?

The rear derailleur installation instructions specify a tool #UT-VS030, but I can't seem to find where this tool is used. What is it?

I like having the right tools for the right job, but since I'm not going to be doing a lot of builds in the future, I'm not overly-inclined to buy tools that I won't use again, but I will if I have to.

Opinions? Suggestions? Ideas?
Jul 16, 2002 4:27 PM
1. Yes, since you probably don't have much experience working on bikes. BB and crank installation require it - especially on a ti bike.
2. Most of us non-hacks use the torque wrench when we can find it
3. The difference between a 3/8" and 1/2" torque wrench is exactly 1/8". Seriously, get the 3/8" clicker type - needle type if you're on a budget.
4. Get the Park or whatever - Campy if you want to blow extra money
5. I don't know what it is either, but you don't need it.

Look to get one of the Park kits that comes with all of the basics, but ditch their low end housing cutters (they suck). Pedros also makes some nice tools. You may not be building a lot of bikes so taps, dies and headset presses aren't necessary, but you will need to *maintain* your bike(s) and thus the need for the tools. For anything that you are not sure of STOP. Put the tools down, go ask some one or visit the LBS and ask them. If you're really not sure then let them work on the bike unless you're sure they know less than you do. If all they sell is MTB's then look for another roadie shop. There are certain things that you can easily screw up for which there is no repair. Sadly to say this is how some of the best lessons are learned. If you didn't get some enjoyment out of working on cars at some point in your life you may not ever enjoy working on bikes - all the grease, more fragile and expensive parts.

Tip: Buy a good book on bicycle maintenance. Besides having tools there is the knowledge required to use them correctly. Learn how to properly clean a bike. White Lightning isn't lubrication - it's floor wax.
Thanks... in fact...Velocipedio
Jul 16, 2002 5:28 PM
I have a fairly complete toolkit, but it's mostly maintenance stuff -- chain tool, pedal wrench, crank puller, that kind of thing. I also have some installation tools for Shimano-type components, like a splined BB tool, but not much for modern Campy. The issue with me is that, although I have a fair bit of experience maintaining my bikes, this is my first build project. I am, in effect, taking the next step, and I just want to have all of my ducks in a row.

Thanks for your help.
Thanks... in fact...grzy
Jul 17, 2002 8:48 AM
Building a bike isn't much different from doing all of the maintenance all at once. If you have the tools to do the maintenance then you have the tools to do the build with the exception being the headset installation - get it done at the shop for about $35. The one thing you will need is the special chain tool if you're going with 10 speed.
re: Torque wrenches and other tool questions...DaveG
Jul 17, 2002 3:21 AM
Beam type torque wrenchs are not that expensive and work well. No need to get the Park (unless you want it). You can find a beam torque wrench at any hardware store or Sears. You will need a special tool for the Centaur BB. I have the Park version (about$6-7) and it works but its not easy to use. A better (but much more expensive) tool for it is made by Tacx ($20). Lickton's has these. The rear der. tool you mentioned is to align the der. hanger. You shouldn't need this unless the bike was not prepped (or was crashed). Go to a shop for that as is a bit more complex. As for cutting casings, I find that a Dremel tool with cutoff wheels works great.