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Ultralight wheels or aero wheels?(9 posts)

Ultralight wheels or aero wheels?niteschaos
Jul 15, 2002 9:21 AM
For road races in rolling hill terrain should I go with aero wheels like HED60s and Mavic Cosmics or should I go with the lightest the will support me. I don't have enough money to get multiple wheels, one for each type of course. Most of my races start and stop in about the same spot. I would also like to know if aero wheels would help any on the Assualt of Mt. Mitchell, 100 miles uphill. I see some guys in the Peloton on the Tour using light stuff, and sometimes using aero wheels. Do I even need to worry about aero wheels if I'm not planning to TT? Is there any websites out there for helping me make my decision?
For RR on hills, go light over aero.Quack
Jul 15, 2002 9:48 AM
I would go with light over aero for road races in hills. Unless you plan on doing a lot of solo breaks from the pack, the heavier aero rims will just weigh you down when the race heads up. Best of both worlds, buy a wheel that is both aero and light. I've seen guys have decent success using the Mavic CXP-33 rims for both disciplines. I think they are about 75g heavier than an Open Pro rim and are bombproof. 28 spoke with ultralight hubs should get the weight under the boutique wheels in the same price range.
So Zipp 404 and Mavic Cosmics are heavy?niteschaos
Jul 15, 2002 10:15 AM
right now I'm looking to upgrade from my 105 hubs and Mavic CXP21s. It makes sense to me for me to play my strengths and get the lightest will I can afford and can support me to make all the mountains here in Greenville SC easier, but I just wanted to make sure I was covering all my bases.
The 404s look like nice wheels.Quack
Jul 15, 2002 10:32 AM
The Cosmics do seem a bit heavy at 1900g+ but the 404s seem very light at under 1600. If you can afford them, they will definitely look cool and do the job.
second the CXP-33'sjw25
Jul 17, 2002 7:01 AM
I've got red 33's laced to American Classic UL hubs with Sapim Laser spokes, and they're pretty darn light, and very, very stiff, plus built with fairly common components, and ran me around $250 all told (Ebay rocks).
I ran 32 spokes, to feel better about the Lasers, and laced them radial front, 2x rear both sides.
Personally, for strict road racing, I'd go lighter over aero, since most of your time is inside the pack, and aero effects are very muted, while light wheels always accelerate faster. The Zipp/Hed type deep carbon rims are nice and light, but so very pricey, even good used sets.
bothDougSloan
Jul 15, 2002 2:20 PM
Get some (2002) Zipp 303 carbon/aluminum clinchers. They will work for anything. Light and somewhat aero. If you are getting tubulars, I'd get the 404's.

Doug
So get the 404's over the Kysiriums?niteschaos
Jul 16, 2002 3:27 AM
So go with the lightest aero 404's over the lighter but non aero SSL's?
So get the 404's over the Kysiriums?DougSloan
Jul 16, 2002 5:51 AM
The tubular 404's are 1275 grams and a true aero wheel. The tubular Ksyriums SL's are 1510 grams and semi-aero. For racing, I don't think there's much of a contest. For all around use, though, including durability and training, I'd get the K's.

Doug
re: Ultralight wheels or aero wheels?JimP
Jul 16, 2002 12:59 PM
It depends on what you consider ultra light. You can use a pair of Nimble Crosswind tubulars that are really aero and only weigh in at 1550 grams. The rim sections are 310 grams each so rotational mass is very light.