|Any experiences with Sun ME14A rims vs. Open Pro?||Tommy B|
Jul 2, 2002 11:48 AM
|Have any of you had any experiences with Sun ME14A rims? If you've also use Open Pro's, how did the two compare in terms of durability, ride, maintenance, etc.?
I was assuming I was going to use what seems to have become the rim of choice, and old standby, Mavic Open Pro for my fixed gear wheel build-up. I actually haven't owned or ridden Open Pro's before but I can see why they have become so popular based on reviews I've read and Mavic wide-spread distribution power and market share.
I started getting paranoid about all the stories of annoying "clicking" sounds from Open Pros, though some say this problem has been fixed. The other thing that made me want to look around is purely aesthetic: the dull grey look of the silver anodized finish. I'm building my fixie with a newly painted early 70's lugged steel frame, and all polished aluminum components including Phil Wood hubs and a Campy Pista crank. Earlier alloy rims had that beautiful brightly polished aluminum finish that seems to have gone out of fashion. I was thinking something like this would complement the polished hubs and older style frame.
Then I came across Sun's ME14A rims which are very close to Open Pro's in section (19.4mm w x 20mm t vs. 19.6mm w x 18.4mm t), weight (421g vs. 425g) & construction and are available in a brightly polished finish. They both have welded and machined seams, machined braking tracks, and are both constructed of 6000 series aluminum. The only negative thing in the specs I see against the Suns is that they have single eyelets instead of the double eyelets on Open Pros.
The Suns are cheaper at $40 - $50 online, but that wouldn't be a deciding factor.
(FWIW, I'm about 150lbs and would build the rims up with 32 spokes F & R 3X for durability.)
Sorry for the long post, but I'd love to hear your input if you've owned these Sun rims!
|Go with the ME14s...||Quack|
Jul 3, 2002 5:48 AM
|I have owned both and the only difference is that the ME14s are cheaper and don't click. I'll admit that after my experience with OPs, I have become an OP hater, so consider this a biased recommendation. I think the ME14s come in polished silver as well. Oh yeah, the road feel is identical between the two rims, they're practically the same design.
Enjoy your fixie!!
|Thanx, Quack! Anyone else agree/disagree?||Tommy B|
Jul 3, 2002 6:50 AM
|Thanks for letting me know about your eperiences with both. Were you ever able to fix the clicking sound? I read online a while ago of how to fix it once and for all but it required you to drill a hole in the rim from the back to access a particlar spot, then drip glue or something into it (I don't recall for sure). I really would not want to be doing that to such a critical part of the bike, and people shouldn't have to. Supposedly, this has been fixed on newer Open Pro's, but how do I know I won't get a pair of new-old-stock clicky nightmares?
Another fix might be to get some of those multi-colored plastic "Spokey-Dokeys" that many of us might have had on our kiddie bikes. Remember those? The sound of them should drown out the clicking! :^)
I definately leaning towards the ME14s.
Anyone else agree or disagree? Should I take the advice of and admitted Quack? (Just kidding!)
|Here comes the Sun||Andy M-S|
Jul 3, 2002 6:38 AM
|I have ME14A's with thousands of miles on them, no truing required. I'm 190+/-, and the wheels are silver ME14A's laced 32x to Shimano 105 hubs, db (14/15/14) spokes.
They've held up very well through all kinds of conditions, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy them again.
|Here comes the Sun||Tommy B|
Jul 3, 2002 6:56 AM
I haven't actually seen them in silver. Are they polished with a protective clearcoat (like most crank arms these days)? Or is it just natural aluminum that requires periodic polishing to keep them shiny and protect from salt corrosion in winter? It doesn't matter much either way, since I take good care of my toys, I'm just curious.
|Here comes the Sun||Andy M-S|
Jul 3, 2002 8:30 AM
|I don't think there's any clearcoat; I suspect they're just clear anodized. I take reasonable care of things, but I don't bother with polishing--they'll be dirty again in no time!|
|Have you found any good places to buy them ?||PatM|
Jul 3, 2002 9:07 AM
|The suns I mean - I have been looking around and here are a few sites
This place used to have them
Let me know where you find them
|Bad Luck with Sun ME14A rims||Andante|
Jul 3, 2002 9:47 AM
|Have had no luck with ME14A's. Very hard to mount tires on compared to Aeroheads (could be the tires I suppose). Out of true constantly (could be the wheel builder though). No catastrophic rim failures, jus likely bad Karma. I have three sets of Aeroheads with none of the same problems, so for the same money, I would send you in that direction.|
|Sunny side up!||Tommy B|
Jul 3, 2002 11:44 AM
Well, thanks for letting me know your problems with the rims, but before I read your post I already went to Branford Bike's website and ordered a pair of Sun ME14A's. Hopefully, that wasn't something I'll regret.
I got them in the polished silver finish, 32h for $39.88. I talked with Tim from Branford Bike before buying them and he had nothing but positive comments about them except that Open Pro's are easier to build up by virtue of their double eyelets. He said with ME14's, the nipples tend to stick to the rim while tensioning, causing the builder to think the spoke has more tension than it actually does (or something like that). He said an experienced builder would know how to easily deal with it. I just need to be sure I find one!
I just hope, for my sake, your troubles were caused by the things you listed and not due to the rims. I like Aeroheads too. I have a pair on my other fixed gear bike and they've been great so far. They are a great value compared to what else is out there and have performed without issues so far. For the bike I'm building now though, I was looking for something with a more "traditional" look to go with the older frame. (Polished w/ eyelets and such). Hopefully, I won't also get traditional problems along with it!
Thanks again to all who contributed!