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Hed 3 comments?(7 posts)

Hed 3 comments?3SPRINTER
Jun 29, 2002 8:41 PM
Reviews, experiences wif the wheels? worth the $$?

Are they suitable for any terrain type?
re: Hed 3 comments?Akirasho
Jun 29, 2002 9:57 PM
... positive experience (only running an H3 front clincher).

Though not the lightest, relatively good aerodynamics with good lateral stability. Said aerodynamics and the added weight would be of little to no use over terrain where your top speeds would fall below 18-20 mph.

The front at least (used in conjunction with a rear disc) can be a bit twitchy in high winds (frame with a near road geometry) and they must be mounted correctly to take full advantage of the aerodynamics!

What's your application?

We abide.

Remain In Light.
re: Hed 3 comments?3SPRINTER
Jun 30, 2002 12:02 AM
WELL....have a road geo frame.

doing tris.

jus wana see feedback.

will be doing sprints to olympic dist. various terrain courses...

wat do u think abt wheels like the hed alps or cosmic carbones?wats the diff bet. them and the hed3 in terms of usage and performance?
re: ...well...Akirasho
Jun 30, 2002 10:42 PM
... here's some old data that might muddy things up a bit...

http://www.bicyclesports.com/technical/aerodynamics/watts_drag.html

Take a look at the table values 'tween the ZIPP 404 and the H3.

HED lists a tubular 700C H3 wheelset at 1790g. ZIPP lists a tubular 700C wheelset at 1275g. That's over a pound difference (and while the specs don't accurately relay exactly where the H3's rotational weight is located... it's there, nevertheless). Hed lists a tubular 700C Alps wheelset at 1540g. They also give a different set of drag numbers. http://www.hedcycling.com/specs/h3_specs.htm http://www.hedcycling.com/specs/alps_specs.htm http://www.zipp.com/technology/index.html
http://www.analyticcycling.com/AnalyticCycling.html
http://www.analyticcycling.com/WheelsConcept_Disc.html#Coefficeints of Wheel Drag

The rim depth on all three wheelsets theoretically give them a true aero profile... with ZIPP using a slightly more sophistocated design . Without true standards for comparison... even this data is sketchy at best... but I suspect that because of their weight... the H3 would be better suited to flat... to flat to rolling... with a nod to either the 404 or Alps for hilly... and while the 404's would accelerate faster and easier because of their reduced overall mass... their inertia might not carry as well on a steady state, flat course vs. hilly terrain or crits.

I have no experience with Cosmic Carbones. I can say that from my POV, I'd use the H3 on flat, relatively straight courses... the 404 or Alps pert near anywheres else (real world vs theoretical).

Lastly, consider the motor.

We abide.

Remain In Light.
re: Hed 3 comments?Roadfrog
Jun 30, 2002 9:06 PM
I have a pair and I like them more than I though I would. I just bought a used bike which had these on when I bought it. They are really noisy... they sound sweet when you get up to crusing speed. Naturaly, people stare at these things... they really look cool! I know they may weigh a little more than some of the other racing wheels... but they really "feel" lighter. These wheels are really fast!! The bearings in these are top notch... silky smooth. You have to be cautious if running both on a windy day... they will blow you all over the place. I was laughing to myself at how ridiculous I must of looked trying to keep my bike on line during a windy ride. If you ride in a windy area, I would consider getting a spoked front wheel to go with HED3 back. Are they worth $850? I really can't say I would spend that much for these wheels.
re: Hed 3 comments?schills
Jul 1, 2002 9:11 AM
Although the HED3 weighsd more thanother wheels, the weight is mostly more towards the center of the wheel and away from the rim. As a result, they spin up as quickly as most other wheels. Having said that, if you intend to do a lot of climbing I'd get something else because they just don't give you any advantage for the price. Otherwise, I think they are great and use mine for sprint and olympic distance tri-s and crit and road racing. I don't feel that my wheels disadvantage me on the crits and road races and they give me an advantage on the tri-s. I'm 6 ft and 175 and I've never been bothered by the wind. . . . and I ride in the wind most of the time, either near the beach, or in the canyons.

Regards,

schills
re: Hed 3 comments?JimP
Jul 1, 2002 12:33 PM
If you are ready to plunk down the $$$, look at http://www.nimble.net too. I have been riding the Nimble Crosswind for four years now and have been very satisfied. They are lighter and more aerodynamic than the Hed3 and most of all, they don't need a special adapter to inflate the tire.