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creak, creak, creak go the Looks, (another component rant)!(12 posts)

creak, creak, creak go the Looks, (another component rant)!slow-ron
Jun 19, 2002 5:46 AM
LOOK pedals with red floating cleats. Less than 200 miles on them and I'm ready for the loony bin.

How can a company make a product this bad yet still be expensive and sell them? (Fools like me buy them.)

I'm not the type to demand a totally quiet drive train. In fact, my bike has a few other creaks and groans but these pedals are bad.
I understand brother!!Quack
Jun 19, 2002 6:13 AM
I too suffer from the dreaded creaking Look setup. I haven't looked into the cause yet, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it is related to the cleats being worn beyond a certain tolerance. Mine are 396s with the red cleats and they began to creak after about 500 miles. The same cleats were used with a Look Carbon pedal setup for years with no issues. I remember hearing something relating to putting bar soap between the pedal and cleat but that isn't really a fix. I'll determine the cause and let you know what it is.
I understand brother!!slow-ron
Jun 19, 2002 6:38 AM
How could my cleats be worn when they are almost new.

The root cause has to be incompatible materials between the cleat and the body of the pedal. I'm going to try some teflon spray tonight to reduce the friction between.

Ackkkkkk, I still keep hearing that sound.
Learn to love the creak!Old_school_nik
Jun 19, 2002 7:29 AM
I love the creak because it lets me know when someone is gaining on me when i climb up the hill in Central Park - the "Look Squeek" is very distinctive - its kinda like a Swiss Cowbell - riders should have their squeek sounds correlate to their experience in the peleton...
re: creak, creak, creak go the Looks, (another component rant)!tmguy
Jun 19, 2002 7:06 AM
Check the interface between your cleat and shoe. Often the creak is there. Lube the cleat contact ponts and of course the bolts and check periodically for tightness. That has cured it for me.

Peace!
Carbon soles shoes or adapter plates?DINOSAUR
Jun 19, 2002 8:05 AM
Curious, I've been using NorthWave shoes with nylon/plastic soles for going on four seasons and the only time my pedals start to creak is when they are completely worn down. It might have something to do about materials interacting with each other...I do wish Look would come out with a better material for their cleats. The plastic cleats seems to wear out almost overnight. If I went by their standards for replacing them I would be adding new cleats every month...
Here's your answer:Mr Good
Jun 19, 2002 9:04 AM
I've had the dreaded creak in more than one set of open pros. Here's how I've fixed it:

1) Remove tire, tube, and rim strip. Drip oil not only on the end of the spoke (On the head of the nipple), but also around the eyelet where it meets the rim. Open pro eyelets can corrode slightly, or become slightly loose, then they start making noise as the eyelet works against the rim. You have to use enough oil to penetrate between the eyelet and rim, which makes a little mess.

2) Clean off excess oil before replacing rim strips! I wipe with a clean cloth, then with a cloth that has some windex on it. I don't use solvent because I don't want to wash the oil out. If you just put rim strips on over oil-soaked eyelets, the oil soaks through the rimstrip to the inner tube, and quickly causes a flat. I don't know if it's a chemical reaction, or just that the oil makes the rim strip weaker--but you need to clean up the inside of the rim as well as possible so that oil doesn't soak through your cloth rim strips to the inner tube.

3) If you ride in the rain this winter the oil will wash out of your rim, and the damn creaking will come back. I know this is a pain in the butt and such expensive rims shouldn't do this. But if you're not rich, my solution (some oil, labor, and maybe new rimstrips) is better than buying new rims and rebuilding an otherwise good wheel. But next time I'm trying a different brand of rim...

4) One time I had this same creaking noise, which sounded like the rim, or the bottom bracket. I finally traced it to the cogset on the freehub! I simply put some grease on the splines of the freehub, and no more noise.
Sorry, replied to wrong post...Mr Good
Jun 19, 2002 9:07 AM
Previous post belongs in the "creaking open pro" thread
Bees waxmwood
Jun 19, 2002 9:58 AM
Or other type of wax based product will cure the creak for quite awhile.
Silicon, WD40, chain lube will last for about 15 minutes...
I may be off base here but...Nessism
Jun 20, 2002 4:10 AM
Bar soap makes a good dry lubricant in a pinch. Best of all it's not messy!

Good luck.

Ed
I may be off base here but...Juanmoretime
Jun 20, 2002 5:36 AM
I haven't used looks in over a decade but they used to creak. The best thing to use as the previous poster mentioned is bar soap. You want to be careful of petroleum prouducts, some may interact with the material the cleat is made of.
BLACK GLAZEpaulj
Jun 20, 2002 6:41 AM
It's the black glaze that builds up on the bottom and on the front of the cleat that causes the creak. I use some light sandpaper and buff the glaze off periodically. It doesn't wear the cleat out as quickly as you would think.