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Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....(11 posts)

Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....nyvram
Jun 5, 2002 11:24 AM
I have practically brand-new pedals & cleats (less than 300 miles on the bike at this point); the shoes are Northwave w/ red cleats and the pedals are the silver 357s.

My problem is they started squeaking about a month ago. This is driving me nuts and getting worse and worse! The noise is coming from where the cleat contacts the pedal surface. I can spit on my hand and wipe that on the bottom of the cleat and the noise will stop for a few minutes..it definitely is from the cleat rubbing against the surface of the pedal; but it seems odd to be happening so soon. The pedals & cleats seem to fit well and are comfortable when riding.

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Any suggestions?
re: Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....jimPz
Jun 5, 2002 11:44 AM
Use ArmorAll on the cleats, that will quiet 'em down for a few rides.
Look cleats have done that since day 1.

JimPz
re: Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....Over-the-Hill
Jun 5, 2002 6:30 PM
I had the exact same problem and it gets worse. The main culprit is the front of the cleat, where it hooks under the front lip of the pedal. Over time, you will notice some wearing there.

I tried everything imaginable to eliminate the squeak. The best solutions are: 1) wax, such as White Lightning chain lube, and 2) spray silicone lubricant (available in the automotive section at Wal-Mart, etc.). Either will last 20-40 miles, depending on how hard you go. Mine was worse when I did a lot of climbing.

I finally had enough and got LOOK 206 pedals. They have a composite body and do not appear to be subject to the squeak problem. In addition, they are lighter and cheaper than the 357s -- go figure!
There is no long-term fix.scottfree
Jun 6, 2002 4:10 AM
You can lube them, wax them, silicone them ... but after a few miles the noise returns. I've just decided to get used to it. Haven't succeeded yet.
There is no long-term fix.Dirk Lenart
Jun 6, 2002 7:11 AM
I agree with you. I ditched mine and replaced them with Ultegra SPD-R's. 10000 miles with one pair of cleats, no noise.
re: Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....tarwheel
Jun 6, 2002 4:40 AM
I bought 2 pairs of Look pedals last summer, 247s and 357s. They both squeaked, but the 357s were much worse. Fortunately, a part broke on them (the plastic cap on the bottom) and I was able to exchange them for another pair of 247s. Doug Sloan says the 206 model, which has a composite body, doesn't squeak as bad as the metal ones.

As far as solutions, many people recommend keeping the pedals and cleats very clean and coating them with ArmorAll, but I have had little success with this. What seems to work best, for me, is to take a nail file or emery board and lightly sand the contact surfaces where the cleat rubs the pedal. These points are obvious because the red cleat turns dark gray at those points. Another thing that helps for a while is lithium grease sticks sold at Ace Hardware stores. Just grease the points where the cleat contacts the pedal. Also, make sure you wear Kool Kaps or other cleat protectors when you're walking around -- this is very important because dirt and grime seem to make the squeaking worse, plus your cleats will last much longer.

Finally, some people have reported that the black Look cleats don't squeak at all, or not as bad as the red ones. I haven't tried the black cleats yet, so I can't vouch for this, and I like having a certain amount of float that you get with the reds.
re: Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....justina
Jun 6, 2002 5:00 AM
I just rub a little lube on the cleat, seems to be good for 50+ miles, as others have noted. The black cleats don't squeak, but that's because they don't float. It's slight pivoting of the foot over the pedal stroke that makes you squeak. If I focus on my form and foot position (not letting my heel wiggle around) no more squeaking. Think of it as a feedback mechanism conditioning you to use better form.
re: Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....Carbon fiber fanatik
Jun 7, 2002 7:02 PM
pedro's synthetic grease works quite well. Clean the cleat and contact surface after every ride. A dab will do ya.
re: Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....Ltspd
Jun 8, 2002 3:50 AM
I have tried everythine, Armor-all, Silicone spray, WD-40, stick lube, spit, car wax, parrafin wax and lastly UHMW tape on the pedals. Nothing works long. I have 357's and the older equlivant on another bike. I am almost to the point of swapping to another pedel (maybe speedplay zero). I just yesterday put new cleats on to see if that has any change in the noise, allthough the old cleats were not that worn. Maybe the composite body looks might be the answer. All I know is that I have almost had enough!!!!
I swear by THIS....chops
Jun 9, 2002 2:25 PM
Cover the entire area on the front of the pedal where the cleat contacts/hooks into it with small piece of duct tape. This fix will last for weeks...through racing, climbing, etc.(eventually the tape wears out). Check them after a rainy ride to see if the tape is still there. This is as cheap as it gets and it absolutely works.
re: Darn squeaky Look 357 pedals....UGB
Jun 9, 2002 7:13 PM
I have tried everything too. My local shop's opinion, it that most of the creak is NOT from the front of the the cleat, but the rear mechanism. It's just too impractical to keep this area pristine. NORMAL use entails clipping out of the pedals and actually walking (ie. to take a piss, or walking into a get a coke at the 7-11).

I love the performance of the pedal...it is a super platform and I imagine, that's the reason many top pro's use this pedal. Top pros also have full time mechanics to clean their bike after every race or ride.

The rest of us don't have that priviledge. I have decided to ditch the Looks for Shimanos. I am anxiously waiting for the release of the TIme Impacts.