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how marketable is an 8-speed Dura-Ace group?(15 posts)

how marketable is an 8-speed Dura-Ace group?tarwheel
Jun 5, 2002 4:55 AM
I have an opportunity to buy a used Serotta steel lugged bike that is in perfect condition. The frame is an early 90s Colorado Legend, the precursor to the CSI. Most importantly, it is the exact right size and geometry for me. However, I just need a frame, not an entire bike -- and the Serotta is rigged with an early 90s, 8-speed Dura-Ace group. It's the complete group, except it has a Mavic headset and Wheelsmith wheels laced to Dura-Ace hubs. The frame was repainted a couple years ago, and rarely ridden since then, so it is like new.

Anyway, a friend offered to sell me the bike for a very good price ($1,000), but I just don't have that much to spend right now. However, I might be able to swing the deal if I could sell the Dura-Ace group and wheels for a decent price. It also has some other parts I could sell, including Deda handlebars w/ Murex threaded stem, San Marco Regal saddle (white), and possibly the Dura-Ace seatpost.
If it's 8 speed STI, It's very marketableDave Hickey
Jun 5, 2002 5:16 AM
8 speed DA STI shifters sell for $125 to $175 on Ebay all the time. You'll get more money if you part out each piece on ebay. FYI, the most valuble parts are the STI levers and the 7400 series brake calibers.
it is STItarwheel
Jun 5, 2002 5:42 AM
All the parts are in excellent condition as well. Not sure what series the brakes are, but they are Dura-Ace. It is really a nice group except I need all the gears I can get.
it is STIDave Hickey
Jun 5, 2002 6:00 AM
The brakes are either 7400 or 7403. If they are single pivot, they're are 7400. If they're dual pivot they're 7403. The 7403 is worth more than the 7400. Selling the group together you'll get around $300. If you part it out and sell on Ebay, you should get around $400.
FYI, My prices are without wheels....(nm)Dave Hickey
Jun 5, 2002 6:02 AM
just food for thoughtWannabe
Jun 5, 2002 6:43 AM
I have been wanting to upgrade a bike of mine from 7sp 105 to 8sp STI. A few weeks ago I got on ebay a set of Ultegra STI shifters, Ultegra front and rear derailleiurs, Ultegra Crank Set, Ultegra 8sp cassette, Mavic Open 4 CD wheels laced to Ultegra hubs. Total price was $380. I wanted it BAD as it had EVERYTHING that I wanted. The stuff (especially the shifters and derailleurs) were in excellent condition, better than I expected.

Further, a user on ebay Lowest Gear sells STI cable kits...

Andy
God ...pmf1
Jun 5, 2002 8:21 AM
What idiot would pay $175 for a used set of DA 8-v shifters. They didn't cost that much new. 9-v ones are only $50 more and weigh substantially less.

The crap sold on ebay never ceases to amaze me.
God ...Dave Hickey
Jun 5, 2002 8:57 AM
I've always wondered the same thing. The 9spd 7700 levers shift 8 speed just fine.
OK, how about the cost to upgrade STI 8 to 9 speed?tarwheel
Jun 5, 2002 7:10 AM
Another option might be to upgrade the STI 8 group to 9-speed. The brakes, wheels and hubs are in top-notch condition. What parts would I need to replace? I am assuming I would need new derailleurs, shifters, cassette. What about the cranks, BB and rear wheel?
Why bother? What is the benefit to upgrade? NMLowend
Jun 5, 2002 8:29 AM
Why bother? What is the benefit to upgrade? NMtarwheel
Jun 5, 2002 9:11 AM
It probably wouldn't be worth the effort or expense, but I like having the extra low gears. My other bike has a Chorus 10 group with 13-29 cassette. I like having the low climbing gears without too much of a jump between the gears you use most. A Shimano 9 speed with 12-27 cassette is also good for me. It's pretty hilly where I live and I occasionally ride in the mountains as well. Not a racer so I don't care about having a corncob cassette, eg 12-21.
OK, how about the cost to upgrade STI 8 to 9 speed?12x23
Jun 5, 2002 8:48 AM
I did this several years ago to one bike. I replaced the chainrings (because they had a lot of miles), r.der., cassette, chain & shifters. Worked like a charm.
OK, how about the cost to upgrade STI 8 to 9 speed?pmf1
Jun 6, 2002 10:03 AM
Mail order houses sell upgrade kits. I believe the minium upgrade parts needed are:

1. STI shift/brake levers
2. rear derailer
3. chain
4. outer chain ring (some suggets a new inner as well). The new DA cranks are nicer than the older ones, but if you're on a budget, you can use the old ones already on the bike.
5. cassette -- either DA or Ultegra 9-v will work (and will fit on the 8-v wheels).

Not sure, but I'd say maybe $400.
OK, how about the cost to upgrade STI 8 to 9 speed?rider5673
Jun 6, 2002 12:39 PM
You need to be sure of how the cassette attaches to the freewheel- early D-A 8 speed had a setup where the smallest cog threaded on and was the lockring. The cassette body was externally threaded, and had a different spline arrangement. This model hub is not compatible with 9 speed.
Check it first- you may need a new rear hub as well.
You can replace the freehub.12x23
Jun 6, 2002 6:35 PM
I did this with two of the older D/A 8-sp back in 1992 so I could use the wheels with my new oclv with STI.