|Mavic Open Pro OR Rolf Vector Comp wheels?||jtsk|
May 28, 2002 4:41 AM
|I was wondering which wheelset is better for overal riding. I'm not a racer but ride 100-150 miles per week (mostly group rides) on rolling hills.|
|re: Mavic Open Pro OR Rolf Vector Comp wheels?||DINOSAUR|
May 28, 2002 7:47 AM
|I have both wheelsets. The Rolf VC's on my Klein QR, and Mavic O.P.'s/Chorus hubs on my Master X-Light. I would go with the Mavics. I have a problem keeping the VC's true and there is the parts availabilty problem with the VC's as Rolf doens't make these wheels anymore as they were supplied for Trek bikes. When the time comes I'll probably replace the VC's on my Klein with Mavic O.P.'s. I might be going out on a limb here, but (IMHO) the Mavics are just better wheels. They seem more responsive than the Rolfs and have a better ride. Smoother and they don't have the side wind problem because of the high rim profile. Also the Mavics don't need a long stem valve, which can cause a problem if you use a frame or mini pump (I was constantly snapping off valve stems trying to reach high psi). This is just my own opinion, a lot has to do with what bike you are matching up the wheels with, your body weight, the type of roads you ride, your type of riding and so on. I'd say the parts problem would be a factor on down the road...|
|re: Mavic Open Pro OR Rolf Vector Comp wheels?||Tahoe Gator|
May 28, 2002 9:43 AM
|I don't have any experience on the Mavics, but I can speak very highly of the Rolfs. I ride the Vector Pros on a Klein Quantum Pro, have ridden them 50-100 miles a week for a year, and they are as true as the day i bought them. My wife has the Vector Comps, rides even more, and ditto. I have no problems with tubes or minipumps so long as i don't use the real short stem versions. i ride in pretty windy conditions and have no problem with side wind. one drawback is that you do need a special tool if you need to true them -- make sure your local shop has one.|
|re: Mavic Open Pro OR Rolf Vector Comp wheels?||woodes|
May 28, 2002 10:37 AM
|I had OP's with Centaur hubs. They never came out of true in 1500 miles of riding BUT they had that very annoying clicking sound that plagues OP's. The problem is sorta prevalent (I don't have any real statistics) but the issue does come up on this as well as other boards. It's difficult to pin down, but many feel the problem stems from either the joint where the rim was welded, or a problem with spoke nipples. I threw my pair in the garbage because the clicking was so annoying.|
|Open Pro clickity-clack||Eric_H|
May 28, 2002 11:55 AM
|Yeah, I have some Open Pro wheels which are also notorious for clicking. They were fine until used in a couple of very wet races and then the clicking started. To the best of my ability, I have traced the noise to the eyelets. Putting a dash of lube at each eyelet seems to quiet them down. I cannot determine if the noised is the eyelet moving in the rim or the nipples fretting in the eyelet.
Another source of Open Pro noise is the "pin" used to hold the rim while the joint is welded. This can work itself loose in some cases. I had this problem with an old pair of Reflex clinchers.
My suggestion for rims in a conventional wheel would not be Mavic Open Pro. I would rather use Ambrosio Excellight or perhaps the Velocity Aerohead.
|re: Mavic Open Pro OR Rolf Vector Comp wheels?||Quack|
May 28, 2002 11:22 AM
|I have a couple thousand miles on both wheels and can testify that they are very different. The Rolfs are more jarring(sky-high tension and stiff rim extrusion) but definitely faster on the flats. The OPs are more comfortable and have much less mass on the perimeter so they accelerate easier. To the best of my knowledge, Rolf still offers replacement parts for Vectors and will continue to do so. As for the clicking OP problem, I have had one rim out of four affected by this. It appears to stem from the rim joint being loaded and distorting slightly.
For overall riding, go with the conventional wheels. They will be more comfortable and cheaper(no long-stem tubes) in the long run than the Rolfs. Personally, if you're married to Mavics and are afraid of the click, go with the CXP-33s. Otherwise, go with Sun ME14A rims. They are the same quality, cheaper, and every bit as light as the OPs.
May 28, 2002 3:18 PM
|That is a good assessment comparing both wheelsets. The Rolfs are far more jarring especially when matched to an al bike.
I am almost positive that the Rolf Vector and Vector Comps were manufactured by Rolf to be supplied for Trek company bikes (Trek, Klein, LeMond etc). Since Trek dropped Rolf these wheels can only be ordered through Trek (depending what they have on stock) or on the open market, (such as ebay). I had to replace a rear Rolf VC rim that fractured after about 15K hard riding miles. My LBS ordered one through Trek (this was last Oct)and I was forced to go with a different colored rim unless I wanted to purchase a new wheelset just so my bike would match.
This is why I would be leery of the old Rolf/Trek wheels, parts are hard to come by.
I clicked on the Rolf web site and he has a couple of upcoming wheels for 2002 and that's it. No list of wheels or wheelsets. Makes me wonder what is going on with Rolf, I read something about him being involved in some type of accident and he is laying low for a while..