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do shimano shifters have more "drop" than campy?(6 posts)

do shimano shifters have more "drop" than campy?bianchi boy
May 22, 2002 5:57 PM
It seems like I see a lot of Campy equipped bikes where the tops of the shifters are even with the bar tops, but the Shimano shifters always seem to be significantly lower. Is this just the way they're set up, or do the shifters actually fit differently. I ask this because I've got 2 bikes, one with Ultegra and the other with Chorus. When I ride the Ultegra bike my hands always feel a lot more tingly and numb afterwards. I checked the height of the shifters, and the Ultegra has about 1" more drop than the Campy. I've got different handlebars and stems on both bikes, so that could account for the difference, but it just struck me that I've never seen a Shimano equipped bike where the shifters tops were even with the bars, as with many Campy bikes.
re: hrm, i dunnocollinsc
May 22, 2002 6:31 PM
Attached to my Ritchey bar, my 105 shifters make a nice long flat top section. I have the bar angled up a bit though, so the drops point in the general direction of the rear der, not straight out the back like i see on a lot of bikes. Even without this tilt the connection between the bar and the hoods is flat, I just have it angled to be horizontal.

I have noticed the same thing tho, seeing the majority of shimano bikes with the levers mounted lower on the curve of the bar. This could very well be a design issue as I think I have heard that the shimano/ritchey connection makes for a flatter top section than most.

whatever is going on, I certainly prefer having the large flat area.
hmm, interestingbianchi boy
May 22, 2002 6:48 PM
My Campy bike has a Ritchey WCS bar, which I love. I am thinking about buying one for my other bike. Perhaps that would solve the problem. I also have my Shimano bike set up with the bar angled toward the rear derailleur, but there is still a lot of drop from the top of the bar. I moved the shifters up as far as I could, but on this particular bar (Performance Forte, made by ITM), you can't make the shifters even with the top.
Am I missing something here?retro
May 23, 2002 7:06 AM
On my bikes, the shifters (actually it's the levers, since I only have STI on one) will slide all the way up to the stem, if I want to put them there. You could clamp them anywhere you want. If you point the ends of the bars roughly at the back brake (the angle will vary a little depending on the bar and stem), then move the levers up until they're where you want them, there's your flat spot for your hands. Grant Petersen has a pretty good description of various bar/lever positions on the Rivendell site. There's no one right way to do it.
i think were talking about different angles herecollinsc
May 23, 2002 7:36 AM
more than just the position on the bar, but the angle of the hood at that position on the bar would be what makes the drop or flat section. the angle of the hoods relative to nothing can easily be changed infinitely but the hoods where they meet the bar is what were trying to figure out
noticed the same thingDaveG
May 23, 2002 4:24 PM
I have noticed the same thing. My Campy bikes seem to have less lever "drop" than the Shimano ones I've had. Perhaps that is just a setup thing but the Campy levers are definately flatter behind the hood points. With Shimano levers my hands seem to be tilted down more which I find less confortable. I keep the Campy hoods about even with the top of the bars which I find more comfortable.