|Shimano or Campagnolo? (newbie question)||mark_2811|
May 22, 2002 2:46 PM
|First off I apologize if this question has been asked a million times before. I'm a mountain biker shopping for my first road bike. I've heard different things about getting Campy vs Shimano components. I'm leaning towards Shimano, mostly because it's widely available if I need replacements and it's less 'exotic'. What is the Campy equivalent to Shimano 105? Any thoughts on this are appreciated.
|Centaur = 105 (nm)||Kerry|
May 22, 2002 5:00 PM
May 22, 2002 5:32 PM
|centaur and 105 are both 3rd group from the top. but campyphiles say that centaur is around ultegra quality. going by price, they would be right. going by weight, they'd be wrong - it's a bit heavier. going by reliability ... dunno, never really used the stuff. I'll let you know after the cross bike gets built up.|
|Sorry, my bad. Veloce = 105 (nm)||Kerry|
May 23, 2002 5:04 PM
|Centaur = Ultegra (IMHO) (nm)||bianchi boy|
May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
|Shimano groups vs Campy groups||McAndrus|
May 23, 2002 4:54 AM
|It's not my intention to start a flame war but here's my opinion on the comparisons of Shimano and Campy groups.
Chorus = Dura Ace
Centaur = Ultegra
Veloce = 105
Mirage = Tiagra
Xenon = Sora
|Shimano groups vs Campy groups||mike r|
May 23, 2002 3:17 PM
|how about this? :)
Xenon = Sora
|I really don't think it matters.||Spoke Wrench|
May 23, 2002 4:58 AM
|When we sit around and BS about bikes, the component group is a big deal.
Whenever I've ever actually bought a bike, I concerned myself with fit, feel, budget and esthetics and the component group just kind of sorted itself out.
|re: Shimano or Campagnolo? (newbie question)||sprockets2|
May 23, 2002 7:47 AM
|Preface: I have ridden Shimano for thirty years, starting back when Suntour was superior. I have had probably 5 or 6 different groups including a foray into DA twice, and I still have a Shimano group on my MTB-what else could you use?
In response to your question, you can hardly go wrong either way, but there are reasons to choose one way or the other. I like that Campy is more re-buildable-speaking mainly about levers here-and that Campy seems to use less rinky-dink materials in small parts and pieces.
I have both Ultegra and Daytona (now called Centaur), and both work well, but I like the feel of the Campy better-both while riding and wrenching. I don't mean just a personal this-is-how-I-feel type feeling, I mean you get the clear impression that the Centaur stuff is different. Everything seems to be of just a slightly different quality. Campy generally makes a slightly better bearing system.
I would characterize those two groups as comparable-the poster who said that Centaur=105 is wrong. Centaur has enough in common with the upper groups, and works so well that it is at least comparable to Ultegra. I spent a summer with current generation 105 and while it is entirely functional and nothing to be ashamed of, it is not comparable to Centaur quality.
Campy is "exotic" until you use it, then you realize that it is as state of the art as anything else out there, and can be serviced and rebuilt at any good bike shop. I made the leap of faith to Campy when I got my Daytona group, and when I sell the Ultegra bike, I am replacing it with one equipped with Chorus.
|re: Shimano or Campagnolo? (newbie question)||Noam|
May 23, 2002 10:50 PM
|Campy offers the option of being able to mix components to suit budget. I have a bike equipped all by Campy but I selected the individual components based on price/value/looks. From the Chorus line I have selected: breaks clippers, cassette, chain set, and rear mech. From the Record line: the headset, ergo, front mech. and most important hubs. Works great looks great.
May 24, 2002 2:51 AM
|you can do that with Shimano; it merely depends on the seller.|
|Brake lever reach||Markus_B|
May 25, 2002 12:50 PM
|Do you have got small hands?
Since I bought my first road bike some weeks ago, I assume I do.
I never had any problems with regard to brake lever reach with Shimano's MTB-components (even never used the adjust bolt) - but on my road bike, the Shimano levers don't have an adjust bolt, and I miss it!
A friend of mine said Campy levers are even worse in this aspect. I don't know if that's true - but you should figure it out before you make a decision.