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10 speed chain confusion???(7 posts)

10 speed chain confusion???Old_school_nik
May 21, 2002 2:21 PM
I am just getting back into riding after a 12 year absence (Vitus w/ super Record!!) and am building a new bike with Chorus 10 speed and I am faced with a decision of what chain to get. I was going to just get a Wipperman 10, but now I hear Campy may have changed the permalink? Others on this board say replace permanlink with another superlink? Are these Superlinks reusable? Any urls' to sites that explain this mess would be helpful. Thanks for your time in advance,

just get the WippermanDougSloan
May 21, 2002 4:27 PM
The new Campy link looks even complicated than the last, and again requires a new special tool.

I used the 10 speed Campy with Permalink for about 1.5 years, around 15k miles. It worked ok.

The Wipperman works equally well, but with much easier chain changing.

You live goodJohnG
May 21, 2002 8:32 PM
15K miles on a PL rigged chain. Holy Cow.... you just used up all of your "extra" lives!

Climb to Kaiser here I come
You live goodDougSloan
May 22, 2002 5:43 AM
that was with lots of chains, not one; lost count long ago :-)


wipperman connex link...C-40
May 21, 2002 6:29 PM
I recently switched to a wipperman stainless steel chain after 2 years of using the campy 10 (with permalink) with no problems. The wipperman is dimensionally identical to the campy 10 chain. It seems to shift about as well, but I'm not convinced that it's as quiet.

If you get a campy chain with the permalink as part of a groupo, you can use a wipperman connex link to join it. Performance Bicycle (performance the wipperman link for $5. These links install without tools and they are reuseable.

Info on the campy chain is available on the website. Apparently campy has given up on the permalink and now makes another design, which also takes another special tool. Although I'm a dedicated campy user, I won't bother trying the new link or buying another chain tool, when other products are available that are just as good and cheaper. Campy missed the boat on connector links. I may still use their chains. They work well and they are quiet in operation.
My 2 centsgrandemamou
May 22, 2002 9:24 AM
If you buy the group you will get the chain. Keep the chain and install it with a removable "master link" Wipperman, Sram etc. The Campy chain is excellent. The problem is the Permalink or whatever they call the new link.

If you don't buy the group you have several chain options in addition to Campy. Wipperman and IRD come to mind. I've got over 2k on the nickel Wipperman with no problems.

BTW when I started riding, Vitus with Record was my dream ride. Do you still have the bike?
My 2 centsOld_school_nik
May 23, 2002 8:07 AM
I still have it, and after years of tweaking it replacing pully etc. I must say it rides and shifts really well for a near 20 y/old bike SR except for hubs Mavic 501 6 speed freewheel, MA40's of course

Thanks for the help with chain stuff,