|Favorite Pedals and why||PatMatt|
May 17, 2002 1:34 PM
|Can't decide between Time and Look, but leaning towards Look. There are alway Shimano of course...|
May 17, 2002 1:53 PM
|I've found that they have the sweetest release action of all the road pedals that I've tried. I've got enough confidence that I always mess around practicing track stands at traffic lights. I'm not that good at it so being able to get either foot out very quickly saves taking a digger with an audience. With Time, Look, and Speedplay you need to have a much flatter rotation to release your foot. With the Campy it will release diagonally - very similar to a Shimano SPD MTB pedal with multi-point release cleats (if this means anything to you). Call it my ski racing background or credit my ability to crash, but I like it when I know I'll always be free of the equipment when it's time to part company. The Record version is pretty light, but also spendy. Though the price has come down. The common criticisms are that the plastic part of the cleat wears out and can be hard to find AND they can be a bit tricky to clip into.|
May 18, 2002 6:39 AM
|Plastic only replacement cleats available from LaBicicletta for $13. Most other mail order shops have them as well. Pedal entry is (I understand) about the same as Look and Shimano. I've not used either Look or Shimano, but those I ride with seem to have just as much difficulty (or ease) of entry as with ProFit. I really like mine.|
|Interesting observation from Grzy. I have never had any||bill|
May 18, 2002 7:30 AM
|trouble getting out of the profits in a jam, including the extreme sport of rollering, and I think that what he says is true. And, once in, I feel more securely in somehow than I did with my Looks. I've said this before, though; part of it may be justifying spending all those sheckels on a pedal. I do like them, though.|
|Speedplay X series||weiwentg|
May 17, 2002 3:51 PM
|1) the float (28 degrees)
2) the weight (198 grams for the stainless steel spindle X2s
3) double sided entry - just step down
1) float is too much for some people
2) the float is not spring loaded, and some people get a walking-on-ice sensation they can't get used to.
3) cleats are not durable.
|What about Zero's?||Jambo|
May 18, 2002 2:13 PM
|I need to get rid of my old Shimano pedals, and I was thinking about Speedplays. I want double sided so I clip in easier, and they are super light. I don't think I want the "walking on ice" amount of float, so I was thinking about the Zeros. Anyone tried them yet? What is the float adjustment like? Thanks.|
May 18, 2002 5:16 PM
|Are functionally the same as the X series but for the adjustable release point. The X cleats release when rotated to the outside far enough; the Zero's have independently adjustable release points (one screw inside, the other for the outside) and the release is similar to Shimano, Looks, etc.
The float on both pedals is non-centering. Riders whose heels might swing in and out during the course of the pedal stroke benefit from the non-centering float by relieving stress on the knees. If the Shimano pedals haven't been a problem with knees....
As is frequently mentioned, the Speedplay cleats durability is dependent upon how rough one might be on the shoes. The Zero cleats have those exposed screws making them even more susceptible to picking up stuff, particularly when walking around on them..
I've been riding the X series for years without significant problems. I minimize walking around on the cleats and they've stayed in decent shape. If you get the X series pedals, get the cleat covers, too. I've not seen any covers for the Zeros. I ran the Zeros on one of the rides for awhile, but put the X/1s back on so I could use the same shoes on all the bikes (all have X/1s and the cleats are not interchangeable).
May 18, 2002 6:53 PM
|Cleat covers are available for the Zeros. I have them.|
May 18, 2002 9:03 AM
|Large stable platform, reliable, refined. Its no fluke that Look has been around longer than any other system.|
May 18, 2002 1:11 PM
|to be fair, they have been around the longest simply because they were the first.|
May 18, 2002 1:31 PM
|true, but many other systems have come and gone in that timeframe. Even the mighty Shimano has not been able to gain a greater market share on pedals|
|Let's not forget cheap||Kerry|
May 19, 2002 6:35 AM
|I don't think that anyone would claim that Look pedals are up to the manufacturing standards of Campy or Speedplay. They are "economical" pedals, and this certainly helps to keep them as market leaders. And let's face it, the Shimano efforts to be "different" have each had, shall we say, some limitations.|
|re: Favorite Pedals and why||JohnG|
May 18, 2002 10:37 AM
single sided Spd's so I can use shoes that don't make me walk like a Jack Ass
VERY LIGHT at around 235gm/pair
super good "feel" for engagement and release
super inexpensive at $60/pair
hmmmm.... not much really!
I did get one bad pair that Ritchey replaced under warrenty.
FWIW, LOOK pedals are a POS and the only reason they're so popular is that LOOK gives them away free to the pro's.
|I prefer Time, and here is why...||Cima Coppi|
May 18, 2002 12:17 PM
|For my large foot, Time provides a large platform that gives me comfortable support. The design of the pedal is also such that with the right shoe, your foot sits very close to the axle. Lastly, there is not the typical creak associated with the Look system, so I get a quiet ride.
Hope this helps,
May 18, 2002 4:01 PM
|In the past five years I've used:
Speedplay X/1 and X/2
Campy Profit (2 sets)
Look PP256 (2 sets)
Look PP206 (3 sets)
Speedplay Frogs (mtb)
My overwhelming favorite is the Look PP206, for these reasons:
1. It's the lightest Look
2. It has plastic insert, rather than metal platform, so it does not squeek
3. It's somewhat aero
4. It has a giant platform contact area
5. It's pretty cheap, around $80
I like the weight and ease of entry and exit of Speedplays. But, they bruise my feet and have way too much sloppy float for me.
The Campy's, both pair, always gave me trouble with entry, even with 3 brands of shoes. Otherwise they are great. At times, though, they have totally prevented my from clipping in. Instant DQ.
The Look CX7's are fine if you need to make some weird adjustments, but otherwise have no advantage over the 206, which is almost $300 cheaper.
SPD's are too heavy and have too small a platform.
Frogs would workd for a road bike if you want shoes you can walk in. But, they don't work nearly as well as the X's.
Time's just are too darn heavy, especially when the lighter Looks work fine for me.
May 19, 2002 3:46 AM
|Poor question to ask. Pedal preference is very subjective. I have rode Speedplay for over 10 years. In have tried Looks and Shimano. I currently ride X1's, love those Speedplay's. Speedplay will definitely please the anal rententivness in you if you are a weight freak, yes I'm guilty. The best suggestion I could make is try to find friends with the same shoe size as yours and ride their pedals. Then ask yourself, what pedal do I like best? Buy it.|
May 20, 2002 2:10 PM
|In order of importance:
2) Double sided-entry
They work great.
|I dig spd-r||Duane Gran|
May 21, 2002 1:25 PM
|I personally chose the SPD-r pedals because they have a metal cleat, which means not only can you walk like a bird (you do this with all road cleats) but at least you don't worry about damaging the cleat. In addition, the system is fairly resistant to getting mucked up by a little bit of dirt. In several crashes I can attest to the fact that my feet disengaged without any recolection of pulling out, which is a good thing in my book.|| |