|Campy Centaur--Good? Necessary upgrades?||Kyle|
May 12, 2002 8:58 AM
|I'm helping a friend on a budget buy a bike and I'm a little out of the loop on the new middle-of-the-road stuff. So I'm looking for a little advice.
1: She wants a triple, so I'm recommending Campy. Last time I looked into this, Campy had 8 front der. positions vs. Shimano's 4, making it easier to avoid der. rub. Is this still the case?
2: I know it's new, but does anyone know if the Centaur stuff turning out to be good? She's having the bike built up custom, so she can upgrade individual parts if necessary (i.e. if she was getting Ultegra, I'd suggest upgrading the shifters to D/A.)
3: Am I correct that she'll have to go with 9 speed to get a triple? If not, is 10 speed worth the extra $ and possible chain problems?
Any other advice would also be appreciated.
|re: Campy Centaur--Good? Necessary upgrades?||colker|
May 12, 2002 11:01 AM
|1- i think so... |
2-upgrade the crank /bb to chorus: lighter bb, slighly stiffer combo.
3- i think so...
i ride daytona 10sp which is centaur with an older name. it's very good stuff.wouldn't mind ridin 9sp but there are more cassette options w/ 10sp. i would chose 9 these days because cassette and chain are cheaper when replacemnet time comes.
|re: Campy Centaur--Good? Necessary upgrades?||curlybike|
May 12, 2002 12:39 PM
|Cea\ntaur is really well done and reasonable. It is a real nice upgrade to put Record levers on it. That would only be for looks. The Centaur function very nicely.|
|re: Campy Centaur--Good? Necessary upgrades?||DaveG|
May 12, 2002 1:26 PM
|I just built up a new frame with Centaur (10)double and I am really impressed with it. Shifting is great, price is right. I ended up going with Chorus hubs though as I thought the plastic on the Centaur hubs was a minus. It is true that the BB is a bit unnecessarily heavy, but it is very smooth and was not worth an upgrade to me. You will need to go 9-speed to get a triple though.|
May 12, 2002 3:47 PM
|If she's on a budget, I wouldn't have her get fixated on Campy over Shimano, especially since it is offered on far fewer bikes. You didn't say what the budget is, but most bikes in the $900-$1300 are equipped with Shimano 105.
Given all the factors for purchasing on a budget... including finding sale bargains and the particular issue with getting a good fit for a woman (not all bikes are created equal geometry-wise) I think that you are starting in the wrong place (MHO) will just saying "we're shopping Centaur." Even some of the Bianchis in that price point are Shimano equipped.
Shop BIKES first and fit first. Depending on the budget, that'll include a smattering of options of different geometries and frame materials. After than, you may have the luxury of selecting based on shifters.
|Custom IF crown jewel--nm||Kyle|
May 12, 2002 5:18 PM
May 13, 2002 5:41 AM
|Good luck dealing with ... ahem ... IF ... but that's another story.|
May 13, 2002 7:27 AM
|I take it you have had problems with IF...if possible, please elaborate as I have a custom Crown Jewel on the way as well. Thanks!|
May 13, 2002 10:18 AM
|I have a custom IF and had no problems dealing with those guys. As a matter of fact they were very helpful in helping me determine the ideal seat tube angle for me. I went through an authorized dealer to place the order, but spoke with Llyod directly in the development of my frame. Additionally it only took three weeks for delivery. not bad for a custom frame. I think you'll be happy with your IF. For what it's worth I built mine with Campy as well.|
May 13, 2002 1:46 PM
|My frustration was that they would never respond to phone calls and emails when I was trying to pick paint. After a month of frustration I cancelled my order. May have been a one-time fluke, but it was hard to stomache having $4000 on the line and be unable to get a response.|
|re: Campy Centaur--Good? Necessary upgrades?||slow-ron|
May 12, 2002 5:27 PM
|1. I've ridden new Campy and new Shimano and the trim on the Campy left shifter seems to have more positions than Shimano. Not sure the exact number but Campy trims well.
2. I've currently got two bikes. One equipped with Campy Chorus 9 & one with Campy Daytona 10. (Centaur was Daytona last year before Campy infringed on some naming rights.)Chorus may shift a tad smoother but for the price Daytona/Centaur is really good. The b.b. on Centaur is heavier than Chorus or Record but functionally it is a smooth b.b. I don't think there's any component in the Centaur line that needs upgraded unless you're trying to save weight. I may think of a non-campy chain upgrade but only because the campy chain is a pain to install. I've got 3,000 miles on my 10 speed campy chain, however, with no problems to date.
3. There are more triple options and it's cheaper to go with a 9 speed triple but this model year there is a record triple crank for the 10 speed line up.
If you friend is going to build his or her own bike there are new campy and shimano groups up for auction on ebay all the time at good prices.