|Campy vs Shimano||yoman|
May 6, 2002 3:05 PM
|Hi all! I've been away from the cycling scene for a few years now and am looking at getting back to it. When I last cycled in a serious fashion a few years ago it seemed as though Dura-Ace was in the process of dethroaning Chorus as the elite roud grouppo. What is the best Grouppo for 2002?|
|Good luck at getting someone to bite at this bate (nm)||LC|
May 6, 2002 5:48 PM
|re: Campy vs Shimano||I Love Shimano|
May 6, 2002 9:10 PM
|Shimano 105 is the best gruppo for 2002.
Coming in second is Shimano Ultegra
Then shimano D/A
Them Campy Chorus
If you need further advice on this topic, go to www.shimano.com
You can worship the groupset gods there.
|re: Campy vs Shimano||Galibier|
May 7, 2002 4:42 AM
|I will innocently assume this is a serious question.
Neither Dura-Ace nor Chorus/Record is "better." All three groups work very well and are close enough in weight for that not to be much of a factor. There are differences, however.
The principal difference is in the shifters. Shimano uses the brake levers and a small lever under the brake levers to shift. Campy uses a small lever under the brake levers and a separate plunger on the inside of the handlebars. You should try both; if you prefer one, get that group.
If you have no preference for the shifters, the other differences are (1) Shimano has what is generally considered a better bottom bracket/crank combination. However, if you choose Shimano, you would probably be better off with an Ultegra bottom bracket rather than a Dura-Ace bottom bracket, as the Ultegra BB is sealed better and is generally more durable. (2) Campy has a ten-speed rear hub, whereas Shimano has a nine-speed rear hub. Thus, with Campy, you get two extra gears. (3) Campy components are generally more rebuidable, but their components and tools also cost more, so that difference is largely a wash.
As for the difference between Chorus and Record, Record uses carbon in the shifters/brake levers, rear derailleur, and, optionally, the crank. Also, Record now comes with a single-pivot rear brake to save some weight. Otherwise, there is little (no?) functional difference between Chorus and Record. Record costs more. Chorus and Dura-Ace cost about the same.
Intangibles include the perceived panache of Campy versus the perceived pedestrian functionality of Shimano. If you have no preference in groups, what kind of frame are you getting? If it's an Italian frame, I'd put Campy on it -- but that's a personal opinion, not a requirement. If you still have no preference for a group, get Chorus for the two extra gears at a Dura-Ace price.
By the way, I use Dura-Ace. It works well. Chorus/Record does, too.
|re: Campy vs Shimano||tanman|
May 7, 2002 5:52 AM
|I'll also assume (naively?) that the question is genuine.
Back in the early '90's, I recall how behind Campy was in the tech race against Shimano. Having recently come back to cycling after a few years' layoff myself, I was surprised how Campagnolo has improved since its early attempts at index shifting in the late 80's/early 90's. These days, the competition between Shimano and Campy has resulted in very good components from either manufacturer.
A common suggestion is to test-ride both systems and determine which brake/shifter you like better. Some like Campy, some like Shimano (I've had both)--it's a matter of ergonomics on the contact points (saddle, pedals and shifters, and each person is different)--you won't go wrong with either one in any case. Thank goodness for choice and variety. That's about it. Good luck.