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degreaser warningDougSloan
May 6, 2002 8:32 AM
I bought some Castrol Super Clean degreaser. http://www.castrolcanada.com/products/superclean.asp

Be really careful with this stuff. It ate the skin off my hands and permamently etched some aluminum parts. I thought it seem fairly innocuous, as it's sort of bubbly and doesn't have a strong odor. But, my skin started feeling really slimey, like it would not dry, and it got into some small cuts and turned them into great big sores. It also did some wicked damage to some aluminum parts.

Of course, the bottle says to use gloves and not to allow it to sit on aluminum. Who knew they were really serious?

BTW, it was a fairly good cleaner, but not much better than Simple Green, which is about as harmful as plain water.

Doug
Simple Green contains detergent...Rusty McNasty
May 6, 2002 9:38 AM
which, therefore, makes it a poor choice for degreasing bearing races. Any left over, dried detergent on the bearings will only attack the grease when you lube it up. Stick with citrus SOLVENTS, and save the CLEANERS (like Simple Green) for cleaning up cr@p on the outside.
hmmm. maybe that's what happened to my bearings.bill
May 6, 2002 9:48 AM
I had soaked them in a bit of Simple Green, rinsed them off with water, dried them, and then re-packed. When I next took the hub apart, one set of bearings were sort of hazy instead of polished looking. I don't think that they were scratched -- the whole darn hub is pretty new (why am I re-packing hubs with about 1500 miles on them and just a couple of hundred miles on them from the last re-packing? I don't have a good answer for that, although they had got wet and seemed sort of noisy and mostly I was worried that I hadn't put it together correctly and I've got no business taking them apart in the first place but dadgummit I'm trying to learn.)
Should I take them apart, clean with solvent, and re-pack?
Simple Green contains detergent...Galibier
May 6, 2002 9:49 AM
The citrus solvent labels I've read say not to use it on aluminum.
How about Simple Green for chains?sodade
May 6, 2002 9:51 AM
is this a bad idea? I let my chain soak in SG overnight, then hosed it down with water till it ran suds-free. It seemed to be OK, but now I am unsure. Should I have used Pedros Citrus degraser instead?
whatever happened toJekyll
May 6, 2002 9:57 AM
Brake cleaner and kerosine? Yeah it stinks but it works. Keep it off rubber and plastic and clean it up responsibly after the fact. Most of the "new" stuff seems to be a bunch of solutions looking for problems.
prefer not to use a toxic asphixiating brain cell killer -nm-sodade
May 6, 2002 10:35 AM
hey, maybe that's what's wrong with me.... :-) (nm)Jekyll
May 6, 2002 10:49 AM
Try Citrus Basedgrzy
May 6, 2002 3:31 PM
There isn't much on a bike that it can't remove. Leave that nasty stuff for carberators and automotive brakes. If it etches aluminum then it seems pretty inappropriate for bikes. You're using a bazooka to kill a fly - less is more. At the end of the day where is this nasty waste going? Down the drain or behind the garage. This comes from a longtime grease monkey who grew up using all sorts of nasty stuff to get things clean. I don't like the film left behind by Simple Green. With citrus based you flush with water then blast dry with an air hose or wipe down with a rag. Getting that toxic stuff in your blood stream is bad. The stuff in gasoline, for example, is a known carcinogen in the State of California (and it doesn't eat aluminum). You stuff has to be worse.
any recommendations?DougSloan
May 7, 2002 5:39 AM
Any in particular you like?

BTW, I bought this stuff because it says it's "Biodegradable and phosphate-free, non-abrasive and non-flammable." Who'd have known?

Doug
Suregrzy
May 7, 2002 9:58 AM
I've had great results with the generic Ace Hdw. brand of concetrate - although it can be just a tad tricky finding it on the shelf. Many of the kids that work in these stores don't even know that it exists. You can get a quart bottle for about $4 and when mixed with a bit of water it goes a long way. Finish line and Performance stuff is good, but more expensive. i got turned on to it after reading the section on bike cleaing wrttien by a couple of professional wrenches on www.pedros.com.
thanksDougSloan
May 7, 2002 11:49 AM
Thanks, the ones at the bike shops seem pretty expensive; I'll try Ace.
Been using Zep citrus from Home Depotp chop
May 9, 2002 6:37 PM
Also around $7 a gallon... but now I'm running to the basement to read the label again, see if any detergent is in there. Gee, how will I know one if it is there?
Been using Zep citrus from Home Depotgrzy
May 10, 2002 8:32 AM
A true degreaser shouldn't have any detergent - that would make it a cleaner. Maybe it's symantics, but the straight up citrus stuff is primarily a degreaser - it'll remove the detergent as well.
re: degreaser warningAvanti Guy
May 6, 2002 11:04 PM
Did you get this stuff into your blood stream before or after your previously posted "superman day"?
Maybe they are linked, you never know this stuff could turn you into the hulk :)....
beforeDougSloan
May 7, 2002 5:22 AM
Actually, before. Hmm, I was doped up? Wow. I see it's not on the banned list. Hush up, better keep it our little secret. :-)
re: degreaser warningAaronL
May 7, 2002 9:51 AM
Hey Doug,

I've used the Castrol stuff for several years now and I like it. But, I mix it at 5:1 with water. I have used it full strength on the chain but I always wear gloves when doing so.

You can't beat the price, $6.00 for a gallon (lifetime supply) at Walmart.