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Please help! Need new stem and bar(8 posts)

Please help! Need new stem and barspeedisgood
Apr 6, 2002 6:40 AM
I need to tap the collective consciousness of the board. I'd like to upgrade my current set up (ITM Big One stem, ITM Pro 260 bar) to a longer and stiffer stem and possibly a stiffer bar. I'm a 170# sprinter-type who does primarily crits. Weight is not a priority but stiffness and control is. I think I'd prefer a 4-bolt face plate vs. 2-bolt.

Options I'm looking at and my questions/concerns:

(Combos matched by clamp diameters.)
Easton Carbon bar + EM90 stem or Thomson Elite (is the Thomson 26 mm diam.?). I heard lots of positives about the stiffness and comfort of the bar but am concerned about durability in crashes. How stiff is the EM90 stem? I heard the Thomson is mega stiff.

Ritchey WCS OS + Ritchey WCS, Cinelli Solido Magnum, TTT Zepp XL. Heard lots of positives with the Ritchey stem, any comments on the bars? Do I need OS'd bars even?

Deda Newton OS + Newton or Magic bar. Horror stories of Deda recall and stems stripping out. Problems fixed or not? Bars are allegedly very nice with the shortened lever reach in the drops.

So that's my start list. Please post your thoughts and any additions to my list. TIA!
Add the Kestrel Carbon Pro to the listspeedisgood
Apr 6, 2002 9:18 AM
and I found out the Thomson clamp is indeed 26.0 mm. Hmmmm . . .

The Kestrel has a crash replacement policy; the guys at my LBS said Easton doesn't seem to have one.
ITM 260Jekyll
Apr 6, 2002 10:19 AM
Not sure how much stiffer you will get bar wise than the 260. I would doubt that the super light AL will be stiffer. I ride one now, one stiff bugger.. Most of the flex you feel is in the stem either way. I have a Deda Zero which is not light but is pretty stiff. I also have a Ritchey WCS on another bike and it seem to be fairly stiff as well.
Forgie or Groove?speedisgood
Apr 6, 2002 11:25 AM
You're right, now that you mention it. Just torqued the bars around. Hard to be sure but it does seem to be mostly the stem.

Anybody using the TTT Forgie or Cinelli Groove stems out there? Those suckers are phat and heavy, especially the Groove (only 2 faceplate bolts, so they didn't make my first list.) They gotta be stiff!
One vote for the Kestrel/Forgie combodsc
Apr 7, 2002 10:06 PM
The Forgie seems plenty stiff to me (of course, I'm not a heavyweight masher-type) and the EMS Pros do a nice job of damping road vibrations on longer rides. They are about 40 grams heavier than the Easton bars (same width), but I've also never heard any horror stories about the Kestrel's snapping in two, either.

Anyway, just my 0.02. Good luck in your search!

Apr 6, 2002 9:53 AM
I've been riding the Ritchey for about a year now and am very pleased. While I am on the light side (150) my dad converted to the same system and loves it to. 4 bolt face plate is only gripe is that they use two different hex sizes for the face and stem clamp. A minor issue though. Oh and the ergo bend in the drops is very comfortable
Check out this link...riney
Apr 6, 2002 1:40 PM
And now time for something completly different...Nessism
Apr 7, 2002 8:46 AM
If you want a stiff stem, look for a large diameter bar extension that has some meat to it. Weight is a good guide also - heavy means stiff. I don't think a 4 bolt faceplate will do all that much for you in itself. You might want to check out the Nashbar close out section, they sell several models of bars in the 300 gram range that will be quite stiff as well as a few stem models such as the ITM Ecylpse (spelling?). Nice steel ITM along with a pair of 300 gram bars should be stiff enough to do the job - even for you elbow bashing Chipo types.

Ed the know-it-all...just kidding.

BTW: that new Ritchey Pro stem looks nice. I also like the Deda Magic bar and stem. Lots of good choices.