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LOOK PP357 vs. PP396??? what is "float"?(4 posts)

LOOK PP357 vs. PP396??? what is "float"?nyedid
Apr 1, 2002 2:33 PM
Hi, I'm buying pedals and trying to decide between the look pp396 and 357. as far as i can tell, the only difference between them is the "float selector". what does this mean? (i'm new to this scene). i read a review here that suggests i could achieve the same effect the 396 w/float selector gives with the 357 with a different cleat. can someone help me?
re: LOOK PP357 vs. PP396??? what is "float"?KEN2
Apr 1, 2002 3:11 PM
The 396 has a dial that lets you select 3, 6, 9, or 12 degrees of float. The red cleat that is universal to all Look pedals gives, I think, 10 degrees of float. Theoretically you could combine the red cleat with the 396 and get even more float, but practically speaking yes, you can achieve the same effect with the fixed black cleat and the 396 that you can get with the 357 and the red cleat. Also some people have reported that the selector dial falls off and becomes inoperative anyway. If you want float the cleat seems to work better.
re: LOOK PP357 vs. PP396??? what is "float"?Ian
Apr 1, 2002 3:32 PM
The 396 will give you the option of 0, 3, 6, and 9 degrees of float with the red cleat. With the black cleat it will be 0 degrees.

The 357 will give you 9 degrees of float with the red cleat. With the black cleat it will be 0 degrees.

This is a high-end feature for someone who is road racing. They can ride at 9 dgrees of float for most of the race, but towards the end, they can reach down while on the bike and switch to 0 degrees so they feel secure when sprinting. And there are a very few people out there who like to ride the pedal set on 3 or 6 degrees.

The 396 also has a higher spring tension for entry and release than the 357.

Probably not much real world use, but you see a lot of 396's out there. I think because they come in more colors to match bikes.
re: LOOK PP357 vs. PP396??? what is "float"?Troyboy
Apr 2, 2002 12:44 PM
As the above poster mentioned, there is quite a huge degree of release tension between the two pedals. The highest (hardest to get out of) release tension of the 357 is near that of the easiest release setting on the 396. I have never owned a pedal tougher to get out of than the 396. I am quite light and small. I love them for crits.

While one might have a time to switch float a couple of times during a 20 day stage race, that would be impossible in a crit or just before a sprint on any day's race. If it's possible without clipping out and getting way down there, it's surely not quick and super easy.